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#1 pinksock

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 10:08 PM

Ok so when I was Installing my lift, I pulled the axle out of the lower CV joint( where it goes into the hub) So I bought a new Axle not a referb from AutoZone and it went in easily. At first it seemed to be to short, it was connected to the trans so I pulled it just a little and it went all the way through the hub, GREAT. So I thought that I was done, Later that night my buddy and I where looking at everything and the upper CV boot was streched TIGHT and didnt look right. As we look harder we found that I had pulled the CV joint apart at the upper boot(where it goes into the trans). So my question is, First off I didnt pull on it that hard, so I think it was defective from the get go. Or are they that easy to pull apart?? Second question is I watch the guy put in all the info of my car in the computer, how could they have gave me the wrong axle. Does it have something to do with the lift because the other side is fine, I just dont know, does anyone know what the length of the axle I have is.( its a 85 GL wagon 4x4 D/R 5speed) the only thing that I didnt understand was that the computer at AutoZone only gave a opition of coupe or hatch, not wagon does that make a differents?? So if anyone can help Please write back.

Oh yea I installed a 4/4 inch lift, its from ozified. If that may make that axle to short??

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:03 PM

Ok so when I was Installing my lift, I pulled the axle out of the lower CV joint( where it goes into the hub) So I bought a new Axle not a referb from AutoZone and it went in easily. At first it seemed to be to short, it was connected to the trans so I pulled it just a little and it went all the way through the hub, GREAT. So I thought that I was done, Later that night my buddy and I where looking at everything and the upper CV boot was streched TIGHT and didnt look right. As we look harder we found that I had pulled the CV joint apart at the upper boot(where it goes into the trans). So my question is, First off I didnt pull on it that hard, so I think it was defective from the get go. Or are they that easy to pull apart?? Second question is I watch the guy put in all the info of my car in the computer, how could they have gave me the wrong axle. Does it have something to do with the lift because the other side is fine, I just dont know, does anyone know what the length of the axle I have is.( its a 85 GL wagon 4x4 D/R 5speed) the only thing that I didnt understand was that the computer at AutoZone only gave a opition of coupe or hatch, not wagon does that make a differents?? So if anyone can help Please write back.

Oh yea I installed a 4/4 inch lift, its from ozified. If that may make that axle to short??

Tony~



I've gotten axles to short before. I'm not sire what they were for. I think perhaps hatchback or Brat? And Actually it was from autozone.

I think the problem is that GLs, espescially in 85-86 are often reffered to as *1800*
Also the Hatchbacks and brats are also called an *1800*

Autozone seems to be particullarly bad. I had to just go back and look through there stock to find the right disty caps/rotors/axles/brakepads/etc...

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 07:39 AM

could it be an EA81 versus EA82 difference? both are "1800's". and no, it definitely should not have pulled apart. i've put some grunt into many CV's and they've never come apart like that. now is when you pipe up and mention the come along right?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:11 AM

They gave you an EA81 axle. You can tell the difference by both the length (compressed - EA81's are shorter, so yes will pull apart), and the diameter of the inner wheel bearing sealing surface on the outer joint. One is bigger than the other by quote a bit.

It's not that hard to pull an inner joint apart - all that seperates the joint parts is a small diameter wire in a groove inside the cup.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:05 AM

Ok, thanks for the input. So when I take back the axle back should I buy a newer year axle like a 86,87,88, or 89? They all should fit right? or am I going about this the wrong way??

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:08 AM

some newer (late 80's) soobs are still EA81 so make sure you check it and verify it's an EA82 vehicle/axle. you still haven't said, but i guess yours is an EA82?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:46 AM

Ask for an 89 non-turbo. Just make sure it's not for a hatchback - wagon, sedan or coupe (3-door) only.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:55 AM

yes I have a 85 GL wagon 5speed D/R 4x4 and yes its a EA82. Ok so I need a 89coupe,wagon axle thats a non-turbo, right. if thats what i need then thats what i will buy.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:12 AM

yep, i've heard other people that just always ask for an 89 wagon to get the right EA82 parts as well. make sure it's a non-turbo and you should be golden. having the other axle (that you returned) or the original with you will make it loads easier. since you're buying new you should be able to keep your original...for next time!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:19 AM

whups, I mean I need a axle for a coupe/sedan, not one from a wagon,hatchback. well does that mean when I bought this axle, the only two opitions in the computer where hatchback or coupe. should I have bought the one for a coupe instead of a hatchback?? maybe thats the problem sence that hatchbacks are EA81's not EA82's.?? I picked a hatchback because its more like the wagon, so maybe the sedan one is the one I need for the 85 model?? Thanks guy's, worst case I will buy a coupe non-turbo 89 axle with D/R 5speed right?

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:25 AM

Well thats a little bit of a problem, They had a $15 core even with the new one. I bought it monday night and put it in that night and didnt realise that it was wrong till Tuesday night. They ship all core and returns on tuesday mornings, so my core is GONE. so I have no old one to go by, just the new one I bought thats wrong. I guess I could that off the other one from the other side if I had to, but hopfully I wont have to do that. Hopfully its only because I told them I need a hatchback one instead of a coupe one. Just thought it was werid that there wasnt a wagon opition?? Anyway we will see, thanks for the help!!:)

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:28 AM

oh, no joke. friend of mine bought a subaru axle a week or two ago from advanced and the new ones had no core charge (Cardone i think it was).
you could also check it against an XT axle, they never, ever came with an EA81. so as long as it's a non-turbo XT it will fit yours as well. might want to check those - 88-91 XT's (4 cylinder). it should match the wagon axle. good luck!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:29 AM

Frankly, who knows what their parts lookup gave you since there actually wasn't an 85 model coupe of any kind. The last production year for the EA81 coupe was 84, and the EA82 "coupe" 3-Door didn't come out till 86. There was a gap of one year where only the Wagon, Sedan, Brat and Hatch were produced.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:31 AM

more thought...88-91 XT might be good to check, if it's for the 4 cylinder it has to be EA82 - no EA81 possible and no turbo possible either. might remove some confusion and FWD are identical to AWD.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 11:51 AM

Cool, so I need to check it against a XT 88-91 4cyl. and theres no way I could go wrong them. Thanks!!

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 01:51 PM

Cool, so I need to check it against a XT 88-91 4cyl. and theres no way I could go wrong them. Thanks!!

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Well, I don;'t know about that. Early XT 85,86,87 without turbo would be a better lookup, cause in 88 they introduced the 4EAT, and the fulltime 5spd into some(if not all?) XTs, 4 and 6 cyl, and they all have 25 spline axles, you need 23 spline.

Or just Look it up as a non-turbo sedan, any year.

Side note: just a tip, the axle for
2wd GL-10 turbo automatic(3spd, 85-88 or 89) should have the larger Turbo CV and DOJ races and cups, but have 23 spline holes for the axle stubs. Only 2wd, Turbo, automatic(3spd, not 4EAT) GL and GL-10. However since any of the 23 spline axles will *fit* often you'll see an interchange and who knows what you'll get. The OEM ones like this arew identified by 2 big ribs on the axle shaft, and a noticably larger joint and boot that the non turbo axles.




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