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Rusty Frame Fix?
Posted 12 August 2003 - 03:44 PM
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Posted 12 August 2003 - 05:25 PM
Posted 12 August 2003 - 05:46 PM
2.) Find a body shell and swap everything into it (yikes)
2.) Cut out thick sheetmetal, (or buy replacement parts, but I doubt you can find any), and weld them in, after grinding/cutting off/neutralizing any rust that the metal will be welded on top of. (yikes again)
Subaru's are generally too common and too cheap to warrant serious work like this, whether your getting it done or doing it yourself.
Posted 12 August 2003 - 07:56 PM
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Posted 12 August 2003 - 11:35 PM
Posted 13 August 2003 - 12:11 AM
Posted 13 August 2003 - 12:42 AM
Posted 13 August 2003 - 05:22 AM
81 GL Wagon with the cyclops!
Posted 13 August 2003 - 07:25 AM
The frame will likely last me a couple of years, as long as I don't abuse it too much. I was hoping for a fix, because as someone mentioned before, finding a rust-free Subaru on the prairies just doesn't happen.
Posted 13 August 2003 - 09:16 AM
Those caps are prone to early rust, and if the car is solid overall, replacing them will add years of life to your Sube.
Problem is, the rust is probably more serious than just those frame rail caps. I would take a good long hard look before going to the effort and expense of welding good metal onto bad.
Try to get it up on a lift if possible to get a look at the whole pan. Also pay special attention to the shock towers, rear wheel wells and inner QPs. You can also remove the interior panels in the trunk/cargo area to see some of the hidden areas.
There is a point of no return, where the car starts to deteriorate very rapidly, and it is no longer safe. Be honest and realistic when inspecting your Sube . If you are already there, take those plates off, and NEVER drive it again!! It's not worth the risk.
good luck, John
Posted 13 August 2003 - 09:34 AM
Living in "SALT" LAKE CITY you can't find a car with out rust! I think they use salt water in the car washes and back it up with sandpaper brushes!
In the winter it's hard to tell if there is snow on the road or just a fresh coat of SALT!
The reason I'm making a Rhino out of my Hatch is because I had GIANT holes in the floor. I could pull a "Flintstone" if I needed to stop fast. Carpet is the only thing keeping me dry when i go through puddles!
I'll shut up now!
82 Hatch, now with partial Rhino frame
01 Forester, now with Subaru frame :}
Posted 13 August 2003 - 11:46 AM
Posted 13 August 2003 - 05:55 PM
Posted 14 August 2003 - 06:35 AM
Yes, replacement is the ideal way, and it can be done sucessfully.
For cars that are borderline cases, there are some "creative" ways to strengthen the unibody. There are welders that are capable of doing quick, inexpensive fixes, but unfortunately, these guys are hard to find. Most of the good ones won't do anything less than the "correct" way.
I've actually seem some of those repairs done with common materials like angle iron, and metal plates. Repairs that have lasted a long time too.
I would never reccomend it though unless you get a REALLY experienced welder, and you the car is worth the effort.
Posted 15 August 2003 - 11:12 PM
And I have the same problem as you. I took my car in for a wheel alignment and they refused to do it because of "serious structural rust" - front frame rails are rusted.
I priced out repair, and it was CRAZY! $2000+ just for the rails. I'd fix it myself, but there is just to much rust to fix it all, so I'll wait for a better project car and dump all the mechanicals of mine into it.
I've run my car in local dirt rally-X's, and ice dice events in our local club (www.qcma.org) with my car, it has a nicely rebuilt engine ($2G), and now the car is too rusty to fix.
I figure I'll drive it until I find a decent 3-door coupe, or a decent wagon. They are around, but the good ones never get sold...
86 GL-10 Wagon (silver with blacked out rear windows)
Posted 16 August 2003 - 10:07 AM
Our unibody cars also use the rocker box (outside rocker panel and inside cover) as part of the "frame".
These must be inspected also
But I have seen Roo's used as "boneyard runabouts" that are rusted beyond belief. They haul all sorts of stuff with them over some serious terain, and have never seen one broken in half.
Doesn't mean they are road safe but.....
Posted 16 August 2003 - 12:29 PM
I have no further questions, your honor....
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