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EA82 SPFI surging problem....gone!


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#1 Erik R

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Posted 25 January 2004 - 03:04 PM

I have been having trouble with surging, poor throttle reponse and terrible fuel economy..............:temper: .
This has been hard to chase down, but my conclusion was test all sensors and switches and go from there.
I found that my TPS switch was "out of range". Now, using the Haynes manual will mess you up here.......they say to test terminal "D"......this is the power wire, NOT the signal wire!
After getting that figured out, I tested the switch UNPLUGGED from the harness with my "Fluke" meter set to ohms.............resistance should gradually climb as the throttle is rotated..........well, it did to about halfway; then it went down! .
Replacement was in order, but let me tell you; with the A/C compessor installed, it's a .............well, its a challenge.

To save others time, here is what worked ('87 GL wagon, EA82 SPFI):
Disconnect negative battery cable
Remove alternator (this is so you can get a good grip on your long tip screwdriver)
Removed fuel inlet tube (threaded).
Removed fuel pressure regulator.
Rotate switch toward rear of engine (you will have to rotate the throttle along with it).
Lift wire harness up out of the way
Replace switch; being mindful of the O-ring......
"cleanliness is Godliness" as they say.........

Hope this is helpful..............:wave:

Many Thanks to all who posted to my previous thread on this subject and also to those who emailed me personally.............

USMB Rocks! :headbang:

*edit was for spelling error.......sorry, I don't type!*

#2 Erik R

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Posted 26 January 2004 - 11:24 PM

It seems I neglected to mention...........TPS=Throttle Position Sensor.........

My bad............:brolleye:

#3 the_bard

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 12:08 AM

You know, I've been noticing this same symptoms on my '92 Loyale. I've been waiting for warmer weather and a fuller wallet, though... I'm going to try the usual tune-up stuff first, and if that works, great ;o)

Ouchie. Advance Online wants $341 for a new one. My God. :madder:. That's half of what I paid for the car, and I paid twice as much as I should've (never trust used cars from friends). NAPA Online doesn't have it listed.

Yep, I'll try that tune-up first. And if that doesn't cut it, I'm gonna go part hunting...

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Posted 27 January 2004 - 09:48 PM

Napa lists it - for your Loyale, it's CRB 2-29347 - $324.00 + freight! Jeez! Check with the dealer - on some of these types of parts, the aftermarket buys them from the dealer. Sometimes they are cheaper, sometimes they are more money.

Honestly, JY is probably the way I would go as well:D. Unfortunately, all the area yards here yank engines and sell them with all the stuff attached, so it's impossible to get pieces like your TPS, or the friggin' EGR solenoid that I need!

#5 Erik R

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 06:09 PM

I picked mine up at Pick-n-Pull............I've had it in my tool chest for a while, so I don't remember what I paid........$5-$6 at most.
Just tell the cashier it's a "switch", don't tell them what it does........might save a few bucks that way :D .

Partsman, I saw several EGR solenoids when I was at P-n-P a few weeks ago...........maybe there are a few left. If I have time to go back (I need to go back anyway, I need more bits) I'll ohm one out.....if it's good I'll pick it up for you.

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Posted 28 January 2004 - 06:15 PM

Partsman - go to B&R auto wrecking. In Eugene. You will almost certainly find what you need.

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 04:01 PM

B & R are the guys who only want to sell the engine with all attachments. I need to go out to the P & P lot again, but if you can find a good one, Erik, I'll be a :D camper!

#8 Erik R

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 11:10 PM

Hopefully I will make a run over there this weekend..................I would like to get some "spare" parts for just in case.............
If I go (Murphy's Law might have other plans), I'll take my Fluke meter to check the resistance on the solenoids.............
I will PM you if I find anything :D .

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Posted 29 January 2004 - 11:14 PM

Erik, lemme know if your going to head to PnP. I need to go, and have Sunday off... maybe we can meet up and make a run out there.

-Brian

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Posted 30 January 2004 - 10:01 PM

My experience with the one junkyard who would pull solenoids for me in this area is that if you find one that ohms out, it will be a Fluke! :D :D :D

I really appreciate you making the effort, and if you don't find what you're looking for for yourself, let me know and maybe I can find something in our fine Pick&Pull - lotsa cars to look at!

#11 Erik R

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Posted 31 January 2004 - 11:46 AM

The local "Walk-in" Yard gets half of what ever the Dealer gets for a new one............in this case, they told me $75................No warranty either, once it goes out the door. No, they don't ohm them out first either!!
That's why it's either go to the big "D" and pay $125, or go to P-n-P and take my chances..............
The profit margin at these bone-yards is unreal.................:temper:
At least at the dealer you get a NEW part.......:D

#12 Erik R

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 12:56 AM

I will be at P-n-P, south Sunrise tomorrow............anyone care to join me?


I should be there about 1-1:30pm...........

Partsman, I will keep an eye out for your item...............:D

Otherwise, I will be looking for another Air Mass Meter......mine is "out of range"..........

#13 TheSubaruJunkie

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Posted 01 February 2004 - 06:42 AM

I wish I could make it tomorrow. Got the clutch in on the wagon tonight, but will spend the day tomorrow running errands, then heading to a friends for a superbowl sunday party.

Lemme know if there are any new gems in the yard. Dont forget to check the small truck section for brats.

Thats where i found a fully loaded turbo brat. Had rollbar and brushguard, both of which i ended up with.

-Brian




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