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Getting a 92 Loyale 5speed wagon latter today for free.
It has a blown head gasket at least. Bubbles in the radiator and leaks badly from the timing cover where the water pump is. Over heating is the only problem with it.
Runs nicely other wise but has like 250K+ miles on it. One of my neighbors has it and they got it from another neighbor who bought it new.
Body and interior in nice shape except for the smell of mice. Rear wiper doesn't work. All electric windows work. Crack in lower winshield but does not obstruct view. Less than 500 miles on the tires!!
Is it worth fixing to resale? With that kind of milage will I be able to find a buyer for enough money to make it worth my time?
Looking forward to doing a head gasket job just for the experience. But then I do have an ej22 that needs one also.
I do have a spare ea82 parts motor if I need any thing major besides the gaskets and water pump.
Opinions welcomed, Thankx, Stumpy
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Went to the Post Office today and the cunstruction on the scinic highway has slowed the traffic down for long delays as they are paving along with their other projects.
So I decide I will bypass them and go up Palmer Mill Rd. cut accross the top and down Alex Barr Rd. That more than doubles my traveling but it's a nice day and I haven't been that way for some time. Palmer Mill is so steep that the Cheesemobile (89GL-10 turbo FWD wagon) wouldn't climb it. Not enough traction!! I was shocked!! As I was turning around to drive down the hill I decided to back up it. FWD will go up a hill better in reverse so off I go. After about 1/3 of a mile she overheats. What the heck??
So I stop, open hood and check it out. Not steaming yet just the gauge regestering HOT. So I get back in and coast down hill with engine off to get air movemet and soon restart engine. Temp gauge quickly drops and returns to normal.
I pull off on a side road in Bridal Veil that goes up to the old pump house. It's like a RV path and I take it as far as I can. Get to the end and put it in neutral and coast backwards and the temp starts risiing. It's only a short distance and I'm going forward again and the temp drops to normanl.
Still not wanting to deal with the construciton traffic I decide to do the freeway to Corbett and down from the other side. Corbett hill is steep and at least 2 mills of nothing but up hill. Not a bit over normanl opperating temp on the gauge.
Whats with this reverse overheating?
Check the front tires when I get home and the one is showing definate signs of gravel wear from where I smoked it a few times trying Palmer Mill Rd.
A new learning experience for me. Stumpy
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Many roads lead to Rome!
I trace the #1 spark plug wire back to the disty cap to locate it's orientation on the cap. Pull the cap and rotate the motor until rotor points to the #1 wire. Look for timing marks as describe above and set on top dead center.
But then I have been told that I do things in an odd manor compared to most people. Nice to have options though, Stumpy
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My pin that holds back the fuel door was snapped off by the previous owner.
I have the same problem with an 87GL wagon.
Keep up posted as to what works out easiest.
Stumpy
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Yes DC like cars.
Altenators put out like in the 13-14 volt neighbor hood if I remember correctly.
Yes, a battery can over charge and cause problems (Explosion is the worst).
Regulator or timer would be advised. 20 volts seems a bit high to me if you want to run directly off of it with a 12 volt divice.
I'm not an automotive electrical expert by any means so second opinions please! And corrections welcome. Stumpy
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Tried to PM you but your box is full!!
I have a few 86GL parts. No axle but I do have a spindle and drum. No rust to deal with and the car had 170K on it when I bought if for the trans. Make me an offer.
Stumpy
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Now just need the tollerance. Its not one of those things a HAYNE's Manual adresses since they tell you to keep your gurbby little hands out of the gutts of an automatic.
I asked about the tollerance spec's while I was at the dealer, no go. He recomended checking with a trans shop.
Got mine back together and have 3 forward gears now!!
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The driven gear is on the gov. The drive gear is in the tranny. If its your drive your pretty much screwed unless your a auto tran man. I think I know what you ment 'cause your not crying loud enough for me to hear ya in Shelby, NC
Crankshaft clearance I can see. Its something you can get to. But the gov. cap is what actually holds the gov inplace. You put the cap over it you can't move it, see it or touch it. CATCH 22.
My error, it's the driven gear.
Dealer item only. Can't even get it at the Transmission Whare House. $33.00 at the dealer and they will have one for me by 5:PM tonight.
They make this thread like material (Been to long can't remember what it is called.) that comes in different thickness. You lay a short piece on the crank install cap (With bearing in place) and torque to specs. Remove cap and measure thickness with gauge supplied with material to determine clearance.
Seems like this should work unless the clerance is to great for this type of measuring material. Just a thought! Stumpy
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Got mine taken apart today. Like Hayne's it's the drive gear.
Kayakertom, I'll be checking on where to get the gear here locally. The Subie dealer first and then there are a couple trans supply outlets.
Not sure about what or how you measure the end play on the govenor shaft. Could be something like what you use to measure bearing clearance on the crankshaft. Don't know for sure.
Stumpy
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Assuming that this is a 3-speed automatic (aka 3AT)
The 4EAT is electric shift and a rare find in Loyale's. The vaccum shift manual is even rarer.
So I just figured in my narrow little mind he had a 3AT. From what i can tell the transmision shifts off a vacum line....Picked up an 87 the other day with the same problem. Going to take it apart today and see for my self this govenor thingy.
Thanks to ShawnW's write up I have a clue about what I am doing!!
This place and you people are GREAT!!
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From all the reading I have done on this subject I would suggest Check The Govenor.
Here is one thread that may prove helpful if not interesting.
http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=27770&highlight=automatic+govenor
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Getting ready to roll over to 135K on mine. Low miles compared to what is on my other Subies. Stumpy
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Your 91 Loyale is an ea82. The ea82 has an over head cam where as the ea81 does not (ie: no timing belts)
There are supplyers like AA and mudrat that make aftermarket products. Then there is the junk yards for used stock parts.
Put an ad in the wanted parts section and check the 4 sale section.
Build you own?
Hello.How do I go about creating a skid plate and finding a brush bar for my 91 loyale wagon. Its bone stock and I want to enhance its offroad capability. Dont want to tear of my oil pan and a brush bar just looks awsome.
Aslo, whats the diff between EA81 and EA82. Do I have one of these?
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Looks nice scrap. It'll make a fine base coat for all the mud when you get it on the road again.
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I bought 7 subi at an average of $200 each. Got the first driver(Preacher) on the road with left over parts from a parts car I bought for (Pearl). Put 13K miles on it with no extra money except oil changes and 1 tune up. Dented both ends and sold it for almost 4 times what I paid for it.
Running driver#2 (Cheesemobile) and have $165 invested so far, with about 2K miles on it. Needs some work but not demanding it yet!
Have an 84GL that I put an AA 4" lift on and still need to pull stock trans to swap in 5speed d/r and upgrade to ej22. Plan on doing more custom work ie: bumpers, swing gate, skid plate, lights, cyclops gril, ect. Will have at least $1,500 in this one plus what ever hand control cost me to set up. Will have 3 drivers when I get this one on the road.
So it depends on what you want. Some times it seems like their money pits but as you go through it you get to know the car intimately. You could buy another and end up worse off than you were if you fixed the existing one.
It's your choice, do what feels right to you unless your friends are going to foot the bill! Stumpy
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If my memory serves me correctly I was quoted 75$ buy Albi at AA. The same price that 88hatchmonster quoted but no shipping involved as AA is local to me.
(http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44936&highlight=flywheel+redrill) Thread to hatchmonster post on the subject. Stumpy
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Like some one else stated, so many to choose from.
I was helping the neighbor when I was 16. He ran stock cars and had just dropped in a new motor that wouldn't start for him. To much compression or weak starter or some thing, couldn't get it turning over very fast.
So we decide to pull start it. No hood on car and I'm setting on fender adjusting the timing on the fly. Finnaly start to get some action from the motor attempting to start when it lets out a 18" back fire out the carb.
Didn't have much facial hair at that age and after that pop I didn't have eye brows either!
And it trimmed my hair for me at no extra charge plus left me with a really nice red upper lip and nose for the next week or so. As I've gotten older I try to tone down the stupid moves but haven't elliminated them totally yet.
Bought Cheesemobile and got it running last fall. It's rusted up from it's life in the salt belt (Wis). The hood releese is broken and the safety latch sticks.
I was test driving it around town and decided to take it up on the scenic highway for a better test. Go down the road a mile or so, turn around and on the way back spool the turbo up in 2nd gear. Hit 3rd and at 70 the hood flies up. I realized before it hit that I had forgot to latch the hood. Immediately scoot down in the seat so I can see under the hood to bring it to a stop with out running into the ditch or over the hill.
Hood wrapped itself nicely around the winshield but didn't break it. Stop, close hood (Now 2' taller in front) and limp home. Set a jack stand up side down on the engine and pulled the hood down on it to bend it in the correct direction. It will close now but has a nice patten to remind me to latch it in the future. Stumpy
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Will a tank form a wagon fit into a sedan? 86GL wagon into 91 loyale sedan? Thanks for any help in clearing up this issue. Stumpy
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I also have a tank for an 86GL 4WD in nice shape and already pulled. We don't have the rust problem here unles you live down on the coast. Open to offers if any one decides to go that route. Stumpy
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Welcome to the board!!
Second of I'm a fan of the Legacys so my opinion may be biased. My first Subi was a 91 Legacy I picked up for 200$ and fixed my self. Got it running my self (Before I found this board.) and then with the help of this board got it running right. After one year two dented fenders and 13K miles I sold it for 4 times what I paid for it.
I currently drive an 89GL-10 Turbo Wag. that I picked up and got running for less than 200$.
Also have an 84GL Wag. that I did the AA 4" lift to and in the process of pulling the engine and trans for a 2.2 d/r 5 speed up grade to.
I never drove the 84 with the stock motor but after driving the 89, even with it's turbo it doesn't compare with the feel and spunk of the older Legacy. There easy to work on and there are many here who do give great advise when needed. Plus they can be picked up in nice shape for that 2K$ neighborhood. If you don't mind doing a little work they can be had for a lot less.
So one vote for the older Legacys and again welcome to the board.
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I must be getting old with febal eye sight. Can't seem to find that link scrap.
Just your luck, I sold both my M37's and all extra parts (Had atlest 6 T-tires.) before I found this board. Stumpy
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Just curious, which style alloys came with your car?
As far as the grill, it is body color with black bars in the middle. Not sure if this is what you mean by "body color".
John
Mine is a 89 also.
Here are a couple of the stock alloys. The entire grill is body color except the subi emblem. Stumpy
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Not Standard Equipment on these cars: factory sunroof, alloy wheels, body colored grille.
John
Mine has the the body colored grille and factory subi aloy wheels with black lug nuts. The aloys are in the shed right now as they had leaks and my parts car had better tires with out issues. I didn't realize how rare they were until flowmastered informed me one day when he was here dropping off parts. Stumpy
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Here is a picture of Cheesemobile, my daily driver. My first attempt at posting a pic since they got the bugs out. Hopefully this works out.
Stumpy
Is it Worth Fixin??
in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
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Yep, its a 4X4.
Just got it home. Used my Legacy to tow my trailer with the Loyale on it. Wouldn't recomend it for a long haul but the neighbor only lives 4 miles away and no need to get past 2nd gear. Stumpy