January 20, 201016 yr Ok. Time to revamp reeprise the legacy a bit. I have not done any more to it because I have been busy on tons of other stuff. I have some new goals for this little bugger. So now what? This is my recent cent outline for this project. Starting with a 90' Subaru Legacy wagon: Already lifted 4 1/2" over stock running a Subaru HI/LO 5spd. Goals for the rig: 1. Run a 35 13.5" tire on a 16" rim 2. Say Bye-Bye to the mcpherson strut suspension in favor of a double wishbone setup - front and rear. With long travel coil overs or nitro charged shocks. 3. Rear steering 4. Utilize a subaru engine(h6,), trans, diffs. 5. Secondary Xfer case ( suzuki samauri ) 5.5 Using 1/2 ton 4x4 chevy knuckles front and rear 5.75 Custom Chevy/Subaru Hybrid axels 6. At least 14" more lift 7. Finish repairing body 8. Gut interior, Rhino line interior, custom Aluminum dash 9. Bulid half tube doors front and rear( making the stock doors still work for winter) 10. Build tube rear gate(makeing stock rear door still work for winter) 11. Be able to rock crawl/offroad and still take to car show and look good. I got some pics for a starting point and some meausrements for comparison after it's done. Measurements: Rocker to floor clearance: 15" Tire height : 27" Lowest front point to the floor: 10" (exhaust) Front bumper to floor : 23 1/2" Rear diff to floor : 10" Roof to floor : 61" Front and rear wheel track(outside tires) : 66" Interior: Vid of motor running in case I sell it : Couple teaser pics. Got some junk tires for mock up. 35 x 13.5 x 16. So thats the start. This saturday I hope to have it down to a shell and then the fun begins. Edited February 9, 201016 yr by WRX2FFU
January 20, 201016 yr what are you going to use as joints?because i found a source of them in canada.let me know.cheers, brian
January 20, 201016 yr Author what are you going to use as joints?because i found a source of them in canada.let me know.cheers, brian I am making the axels myself for now. I have a couple sources for built ones but they are pricey. For the mock up mine will work and until I put them thru their paces I won't know for sure what they will take. I am going to be reinforcing the cups and reworking the cv's, and beefing up the shafts. I am hoping that will work. The big thing I am worried about is using subie diffs. I am planning running 4.11 r160's and hopefully going to be machining lockers for them but I just don't know if they can turn that much tire. Again it'll be an experiment. Worse comes to worse I'll step to r200's and then proabaly use a chevy pig diff out of an IFS housing(last resort). Any info is appreciated for sure!
January 20, 201016 yr oh, i read some thing wrong. nevermind.good luck machining lockers.that should be fun.cheers, brian
January 20, 201016 yr Author They will be tiny for sure. I have my lunch box locker out of my truck for a template.
January 20, 201016 yr I'm looking forward to seeing this project. On a side note, if you don't mind telling me, what offset did you use to correct your camber on your lift blocks?
January 21, 201016 yr Author No correction. I do have a slight bit of pos camber but it never bothered me.
January 23, 201016 yr Author Wow. Really all I can say. HUGE thanks to Chris, Rick, Brian, Mike R. and Drew(not azar). It's great to have good local subie people. I am amazed. About 6 hours and quite a few *************** rump roast bolts and it goes from a car to this:
January 23, 201016 yr Author Sorry for the blurry pics too. The last one is so I can kinda get a perspective on what it's gonna look like or how high this will be to be able to utilize the tires. Edited February 9, 201016 yr by WRX2FFU
January 24, 201016 yr damn those pesky neighborhood kids with wrenches... can't wait to see it all back together!
January 24, 201016 yr it'll never work:)stoked to see double a-arms....i have thought about it before ...i mean, its just a bunch of rectangles and triangles right?zzz rock on........:)cheers, brian oh yeah, nice Vans, i have set on right now.but i bet mine are way cooler.... Edited January 24, 201016 yr by monstaru
January 24, 201016 yr Author damn those pesky neighborhood kids with wrenches... can't wait to see it all back together! I know. Well at least they took it all apart for me. it'll never work:)stoked to see double a-arms....i have thought about it before ...i mean, its just a bunch of rectangles and triangles right?zzzrock on........:)cheers, brian oh yeah, nice Vans, i have set on right now.but i bet mine are way cooler.... The vans guy is not me. A good Friend though. I'll tell him you digum' Honestly I have had very few people tell me it will never work. Just some JEEP people that have been shown up by this little wagon before. As well as some that have no idea what this could possibly look like. Most including those here are very supportive. I am positive in my abilities but I don't have a ton of time so this may take a while. I am stoked to start building the a arms but really they will be easy to make, just getting the lengths, and placements right will be the hard part. I needs to get the frame figured out, mountings for the motor(h6 babay!), trans, xfer case, and diffs. I could have done solid axels on this a lot easier but to me it would be getting even further from subie heritage, But it's different and thats good... right? Getting the diffs, and xfer case in the next week or so. Motor by the first of february(donor svx). I am gonna head to the steel yard soon too to get some stuff. I needs to build bigger jack stand too. Sweet. Thanks! All in all thanks for this site. Without the lifted offroad crew here I would never have thought this was possible myself
January 24, 201016 yr This is gonna rock! I like to see some ambition, some balls to do somthing like that....Killer man! :banana: (ps i don't posses such balls lol)
January 24, 201016 yr just think of it as following the existing frame rails.this will give you something to mount shocks off of, and your engine, in stock height.like this , if you will.... cheers, rbain Edited January 25, 201016 yr by monstaru
January 25, 201016 yr Author ^^^ ooo Thanks for that pic. Thats exactly sorta like what I have in me head and on paper. The nice thing that I am doing is saying bye-bye to the whole front factory subframe. It will be cut off at the firewall. This will make it much cleaner I think too. And I can increase my approach angle because the won't be much metal in front of the tires at all. I am just gonna rehang the fenders with bracing and re- use part of the front core support to remount the headlights and grill. I have taken quite a few measure ments and have pages and pages of drawings so far. From what I can see I will also be moving the whole motor and trans back about 5 inches as well.
January 25, 201016 yr moving the trans and engine back is a good idear....i will also be cutting the front off of that car....kinda...actually, i should be starting tomorrow..:grin:but if you find that moving the trans tunnel is to much fo ryou , you can always move the wheels a tad bit forward and get a great approach angle... cheer, brian ^^^ ooo Thanks for that pic. Thats exactly sorta like what I have in me head and on paper. The nice thing that I am doing is saying bye-bye to the whole front factory subframe. It will be cut off at the firewall. This will make it much cleaner I think too. And I can increase my approach angle because the won't be much metal in front of the tires at all. I am just gonna rehang the fenders with bracing and re- use part of the front core support to remount the headlights and grill. I have taken quite a few measure ments and have pages and pages of drawings so far. From what I can see I will also be moving the whole motor and trans back about 5 inches as well.
January 25, 201016 yr Author moving the trans and engine back is a good idear....i will also be cutting the front off of that car....kinda...actually, i should be starting tomorrow..:grin:but if you find that moving the trans tunnel is to much fo ryou , you can always move the wheels a tad bit forward and get a great approach angle...cheer, brian I thought about moving the tires forward but the damn legacy is already long between the wheels. I might actually move the wheels back if I can get away with it depending on how it looks at that point. Someone said to me yesterday that I should cut off the back doors and make it a two door and that really got my head going round. I would like to have 4 seats but shortening her up would be great. I might have to wait for the sequel on that one... Edited January 25, 201016 yr by WRX2FFU
January 25, 201016 yr just bob the back......all you have to do is deal with sparre tire well, big deal... whats the wheelbase?i never measured any of my legacies....cheers, brian
January 25, 201016 yr Author WB is about 105". 8" or so longer than ea82 cars. I am probably gonna trim out the spare tire well area and even the back bottom up a bit. Til i get to the suspension stuff back there I'm ?.
February 1, 201016 yr Author Pic and vid of said svx. She runs nice. Gonna be nice for Godzirra for sure. Sound in the vid is bad power steering pump. Edited February 9, 201016 yr by WRX2FFU
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