Jaderider Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) I asked the mechanic whether it was a new or used engine and he said it would be a new Subaru engine. The total estimate to the service contract people is around $6000 and my daughter's portion (with $100 deductible) is around $750. The contract doesn't cover any belts, hoses, fluids, shop supplies. I'm hoping they do a good job--small town and word gets around quick if you're always screwing people. Doesn't take much to get on the news around here. :-) Edited February 8, 2010 by Jaderider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Thats actually about how much it should be. A fair price all the way around. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 That's a nice deal for a new engine - but $750 for a mistake by someone else seems odd. Are you going to be paying for more parts too - timing belt, water pump, timing tensioner, timing pulleys - or are those parts included in the $750? What happens to the old motor since it's still good? I'll buy it for $500 (then i'll flip it for $2k). Or maybe the insurance does something with the motor? Not sure where you'll be with timing components and water pump (additional costs, new, old stuff?)- but hopefully you're essentially buying 60,000 miles of engine life and avoiding what would be a timing belt job at 100,000 miles which costs $699 at the dealer and no worries of a valve job any time soon. Glad to hear you're on the road to recovery and getting your ride back. Nice hit on the service contract, glad that's working out since this was an error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 What happens to the old motor since it's still good? I'll buy it for $500 (then i'll flip it for $2k). Or maybe the insurance does something with the motor? Gee Gross, never pictured you as hehehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 ha ha, yeah that's me! I was making a point, I have no intention of buying it (though I would). this perfectly good motor is ending up somewhere, that's a nice pile of cash for somebody. she should ask for it back? or are they essentially "buying" it like that do a wrecked car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 ha ha, yeah that's me! I was making a point, I have no intention of buying it (though I would). this perfectly good motor is ending up somewhere, that's a nice pile of cash for somebody. she should ask for it back? or are they essentially "buying" it like that do a wrecked car? Well it goes back to the rebuilder as a core. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Well it goes back to the rebuilder as a core. nipper so if the engine is coming from Subaru they take the engine back too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 so if the engine is coming from Subaru they take the engine back too? There arent any such thing really as bew engines (otherwise that clow boat from japan comes in) in this case. What he is getting is a fully warrented rebuilt in the usa (by some major US truck mfg i forget who it will come to me) for subaru to subaru standards. When you go to a subaru dealer and tell them you want a new subaru engine (as I did) that is what you get. It comes with a 3/36,000 mile warrenty. Of course they take them back (800.00 core charge otherwise). They take them back so they can rebuild them and they live another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulwnkl Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Wow. I had no idea there would be $750 worth of belts, fluids, and shop supplies in a motor change. Let us know how the warranty company responds to $6,000. I'd also ask about the old engine. If the warranty company doesn't _require_ it back, then if I were you I'd offer to trade Wackerli the old engine for that $750 in non-covered expenses. I don't believe they have a machine shop there, so they probably won't be rebuilding anything themselves, but it'd still be worthwhile for them to trade you that. If they won't trade, and the warranty company doesn't absolutely, positively want the engine back, I'll bet you could cover most or all of your out-of-pocket expenses by selling that engine here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Brian Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 The OP stated on page 3 that the mechanic says she needs a new engine AND a new cylinder! That is not kosher! You cannot need both. He misspoke, she misunderstood or mistyped or they are still playing with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaderider Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) He said new engine and new cylinder--specifically the left cylinder. He said the other one was fine. As for the old engine, I did figure there would be a core charge if I asked for it back...however, doesn't hurt to see what they say. When I talk to them next, probably when the engine arrives later this week, I'll ask him if I can have the motor back and see what he says. My personal vehicle is a Chevy Silverado, so I can haul it away without issue. Wackerli might sell it to that local Subaru specialist shop--Hall's. Don't know. When I talked to the mechanic yesterday, he said the warranty people had already okay'd it. That $750 does cover a new timing belt and other consumables. I asked if he was going to replace the water pump (based on what I had read about timing belts affecting those if the belt broke) and he said no, it was fine. I was thinking of calling Larry Miller Subaru in Boise about their service to the vehicle when we bought it. Maybe they would pony up the $750 since it could have been caused by them messing with the timing belt a year and a half ago. When I tried to ask the local mechanic here if he thought the bolt could have been over/under torqued at that point, he refused to speculate on what might have caused the bolt to break. Just claimed he had seen it happen one other time. Edited February 9, 2010 by Jaderider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 He said new engine and new cylinder--specifically the left cylinder. He said the other one was fine. As for the old engine, I did figure there would be a core charge if I asked for it back...however, doesn't hurt to see what they say. When I talk to them next, probably when the engine arrives later this week, I'll ask him if I can have the motor back and see what he says. My personal vehicle is a Chevy Silverado, so I can haul it away without issue. Wackerli might sell it to that local Subaru specialist shop--Hall's. Don't know. When I talked to the mechanic yesterday, he said the warranty people had already okay'd it. That $750 does cover a new timing belt and other consumables. I asked if he was going to replace the water pump (based on what I had read about timing belts affecting those if the belt broke) and he said no, it was fine. I was thinking of calling Larry Miller Subaru in Boise about their service to the vehicle when we bought it. Maybe they would pony up the $750 since it could have been caused by them messing with the timing belt a year and a half ago. When I tried to ask the local mechanic here if he thought the bolt could have been over/under torqued at that point, he refused to speculate on what might have caused the bolt to break. Just claimed he had seen it happen one other time. why would someone else cover the 750? The warranty has a limit, and they are paying for it. You don't get 2 warranties usually, only one. This proves why warranties has limits. -even with the Bestest of Warranties, which costed money in the first beginning, you are still out 750 which the warranty denies. I dont think there is much benefit, the cost of the warranty when purchase car, whaat (1500?) and now another 750, well that 2250 could have been put in a rainy day fund, and you still could have done this...no difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulwnkl Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 ...is a fully warrented rebuilt in the usa (by some major US truck mfg i forget who it will come to me)... Is it Detroit (Diesel)? They do a whale of a lot of automotive gasoline rebuild work for other companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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