wmaney Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I have a 1999 30th Anniversary Legacy sedan, Automatic, AWD. It cranks but won't start. It shut off in the driveway and won't start again. Replaced coil, crank and cam sensors. I want to check the Ignition Control Module/Ignitor but can't find it. It is not on the middle of the fire wall like my 95 Legacy or near transmission resistor on right front strut tower. Where is the Ignitor? This is a 2.2 Phase two engine. One year only. Also weird is that is has no air flow sensor in the intake pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 You haven't mentioned the timing. If it jumped ... that is an interference motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 I pulled left cam cover. Timing marks are good. The timing mark on crank pulley should be at 4 o'clock(Keyway and cam timing mark on crank pulley will be aligned straight up then) with camshaft timing mark aligned with indicator. 100 miles on new Gates timing belt/idler water pump kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montana tom Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 fyi; The newest gates kits now have partial china sourced parts. Not all do, but enough that you must look at each bearing & the belt to confirm country of origin. Amazon will tell you they are all japan parts... they may not be. With an interference motor be very sure of your parts. By the way I think that the crank keyway should be down when crank is proper for checking timing, but I go by the timing marks not the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iriejedi Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm having the same problem on my 96 ej22. I haven't tried swapping my mass airflow sensor but did everything else you've done. Even swapped the alternator. I'm interested in hear your resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 I need to find the igniter/ignition control module first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted December 31, 2016 Share Posted December 31, 2016 (edited) have you tried cranking while squirting starter fluid in the intake? not sure what is at 4 o'clock position? I think this may be 2.2 timing layout; I think this is your tooth count; Edited December 31, 2016 by 1 Lucky Texan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 Ether won't start it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 scan for trouble codes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 No relevant trouble codes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Does anyone know the location of the igniter/ignition control module on 99 2.2 Legacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 (edited) Yes the crank keyway is at the bottom when timing belt mark is at top of crank pulley. The timing mark on crank pulley and timing mark on front of crank timing sprocket are then at 4 o'clock. Edited January 1, 2017 by wmaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 Does anyone know the location of the igniter/ignition control module on 99 2.2 Legacy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Lucky Texan Posted January 1, 2017 Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think there was some transition to built-in igniters around this year. Some info says it's built into the coil, other says the module is on the firewall. maybe some infor in this thread will help; http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/66-problems-maintenance/43911-99-legacy-wont-start-no-spark.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Yes the ignitor is in the ignition coil. Pulled the timing belt cover. Left bank cam timing is good. But right cam is one quarter turn off. This is with 50 miles on new Gates timing belt kit and Felpro blue teflon head gaskets. I replaced the right bank plastic cam sprocket with an old 2.2 steel cam sprocket. I then checked compression. All cylinders are in the 130-180 range. Good for an old motor. The question is why did it jump time? I have replaced my own Subaru cam belts since the eighties. Edited January 18, 2017 by wmaney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iriejedi Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I would bet the tensioner failed. I had a 2.2L skip timing about three times in 1000 miles. The third time I reset the timing I swapped the belt and tensioner with a good used pair I had lying around and it never skipped timing again. I just threw out the removed parts so as not to revisit that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Thanks iriejedi. Failed tensioner sounds like a good explanation. Hate to throw out a new tensioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Hold on. Was it running one day and the next it wasnt? It doesn't have an igniter anymore on that model, FYI. Have you checked fuel pressure to verify the pump hasn't died? It's fairly common for that to happen. I probably replace 15 during the summer, specifically on the 90-99 Legacys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmaney Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 I was driving it in driveway and it shut off with 50 mile on new Gates timing belt kit. Turns out that timing on right cam jumped one quarter turn on right cam sprocket. Left cam was still in time. Retimed cams and it runs now. I bought this car with a bad motor and it has been a curse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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