87 GL crank no start issues

[Highstone Soobie]

Hopefully you all can help.

I have an 87 GL 1.8L 4x4  wagon  Weber Carbureted w/270000 miles.

Have had for 5 years now and been having no start issues for about 2 weeks now.Your forums have steered me in the right directions but no luck.

I have spark from coil to disty, disty to#1, new cap/rotor, rotors turns in disty so not the time belt. Seems  to be getting fuel to carb, it ckokes and sputters and acts like it's flooding out and back fires , and hit the carb with starting fluid, won't even try to fire. Then checked rev sensor (what's up with  that stupid thing)have power to the unit, have tack pulse, tried jumping several different ways just to be sure I didn't have wires mixed up. Can't hear pump kick on, but actually never have heard it since I got the car. Assume it's working cuz carb is flooding out.

So not sure where to check from here. Any advice ???? would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance 

 

 

 

 

[el_freddo]

Check the RHS timing belt. If that’s snapped you’ll have weird symptoms. The LHS timing belt spins the LHS cam, oil pump and the dizzy, while the right is only responsible for the RHS cam. 

Check that belt and get back to us. I’m out of ideas otherwise (for now). 

Cheers 

Bennie

[Highstone Soobie]

 Thank you. Pulling timing covers today. Initially checked inspection plugs and seemed intact but we shall see. Pulled covers.belt is tight and intact. How can you tell if it jumped time???

Also have been looking through posts trying to find info on the green code connectors, and seems others have posted also as only finding the one four pin green connector under the dash. Not in engine bay. No black or white connectors anywhere. Found: 1 green single wire connector(male) under dash.        3 blue single single wire connector (2 male and 1 female unhooked under dash.           1 green four pin connector female under dash.       1 white four pin connector (female)

No green white or black on passenger side or under hood, or in back tail light areas, or proper connectors under dash on drivers side, which is currently torn apart trying to find this green 4 wire connectors mate..

Is this GL a ghost or a half model. Seems not to many of these out there. So anyone have any ideas on code connectors and their proper location? Anyone. Anyone?????

 

 

[Highstone Soobie]

Is there possibly anything in the ignition that I'm missing and I should check!?

[el_freddo]

G’day Highstone Soobie, 

Only way to tell timing is to remove the covers and check. When the crank is lined up, one cam will be lined up and the other at 6 o’clock. It’s good that the belts are tight for a start.

Since your L series is a carb model, you won’t have the green connectors for codes. That’s only for SPFI, MPFI and MPFI turbo models. 

I can’t remember if the carb fuel pump primes momentarily when you first turn the key to the ON position. You should be able to hear it. 

Alternatively, pull the fuel in hose at the carb, put a bottle on the end and turn the ignition to the ON position. Check the bottle for fuel. If none there, crank the engine over as this should tell that module thingo to operate the fuel pump. If there’s still no fuel you have an issue with the fuel pump, blocked filter or that fuel cut module. 

I’d first try bypassing that module temporarily. I can’t remember which wires to loop together to make the fuel pump operate with the key in the ON position. 

Once that’s established, next would be filter and then the pump. 

I’m also assuming you have enough fuel in the tank for the pump to pick it up. 

Cheers 

Bennie