bgambino Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I have a 91 Loyale wagon, 4WD auto. (non-turbo)....definitely has a diff. fluid leak....looks like it is coming from the stub on the side of the tranny where the CV axle connects (maybe both sides). --How tough is seal to replace? --Can I do it without removing tranny (oh God please say yes,,,,LOL) would I HAVE to remove Y pipe --you know what will happen if I do...a couple of threads will strip in the engine block(but I can deal with that) --Pry the seal out and push/hammer a new one in(HOW--this is the big question)? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 just disconnect the inner cv joint then read the manual, shouldn't be too hard the hardest part may be finding the correct seal, use the number on it to cross reference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruGl10 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted November 29, 2004 Author Share Posted November 29, 2004 well...if I had a manual I wouldn't need to ask...LOL....I don't think a Haynes would cover this would it?...anyway....Haynes stinks...I could write a better book for the do-it-yourselfer. Best book ever was John Muirs......wish he still wrote them...a genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I'll see what my scanner can do, with a link to follow :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 any other assistance out there? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subiemech85 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 use a hook to pull it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 is this a 4EAT transmission? if it's the front seals on a 4EAT then i think you will want to get some detailed information before attempting this. i have 4EAT's in my XT6's...this seal is tricky to replace and the outer housing cover you remove to get to it is a critical part and requires proper installation. i can't offer more detail because i will never replace it unless it is leaking and that hasn't happened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 i also have the seals if you want to buy them send me a PM or email (get me over at www.xt6.net if you want them as i'm not here very often, but im a moderator over there). i bought them thinking i would replace them as preventative maintenance....until i looked at the process a little closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Grossgary what do you mean by "front" seals? the it is leaking where the axle stubs attach to the side of the tranny... How would I know if it were a 4EAT tranny? thx is this a 4EAT transmission? if it's the front seals on a 4EAT then i think you will want to get some detailed information before attempting this. i have 4EAT's in my XT6's...this seal is tricky to replace and the outer housing cover you remove to get to it is a critical part and requires proper installation. i can't offer more detail because i will never replace it unless it is leaking and that hasn't happened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Grossgary what do you mean by "front" seals? the it is leaking where the axle stubs attach to the side of the tranny... How would I know if it were a 4EAT tranny? thx WAG, he was differentiating (no pun intended) between front and back diff, although you said side of tranny. As I said, WAG. The 4EAT is the 4-speed automatic. So, the question is whether you have a 3-speed of 4-speed tranny. (If in doubt, look at shifter. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 northwet is on it - by front i meant the ones in the tranny, not the rear diff. i used to have pictures of a bad transmission that i had messed with showing those seals, but can't find them anymore. i was told by john from kentucky...and i don't know that i've heard him say something yet about soobs that wasn't dead on....that the large cover you have to remove to pull these seals out also lines up some pinion or something inside the diff so be very careful doing it. the torque is important. i was told if i really wanted to do it to mark the position of the cover before starting to turn it and then count how many turns it takes to remove it...and install the exact same way. but i decided it sounded like too much work and risk for a seal that wasn't leaking anyway. someone else also told me that those seals you see are basically just external *dust* seals and there is another seal behind that to prevent oil from leaking.....but i don't remember who told me that so i would ask before i assume any of that is correct. hopefully i'm talking about the same thing here and not just creating a mess for you. do you have an FSM? i messed with my transmission before i had an FSM so i've never looked it up. good luck and have fun, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Haven't looked at my FSM, so take this with a grain of salt. The seals should be accessible after removing the side retainers (the ribbed screw-in things). Yes, these retainers provide preload to the bearings (and I believe the diff carrier). Their current "set" needs to marked and remembered, also the number of turns that they are turned in. As long as you reinstall to these settings you should be OK; if you replace side bearings it may be different. The seals should be accessible, as you are supposed to be able replace the side bearings this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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