Dweebus Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 If you're interested in a real all-season tire you might check out Nokian WRs. We have them on out 97 Outback Sport and they're excellent. Unstopable in the snow/ice and feel like a regular all-season/summer tire in the dray and rain. They're priced around what other high quality tires are ($100 or so installed if I remember right). You'll have to call dealers for pricing, as there appears to be an agreement that prevents on-line advertising/selling of Nokian tires. http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=6 http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/home.cfm We also have a set of Goodyear Comfortreads (mentioned earlier) on our VW Golf. This is also a nice tire. I haven't had the chance to try it in snow/ice. I don't think it will do nearly as well from looking at it. We have a set of Blizzaks for the Golf in the winter, which doesn't even come close to the traction of the Subaru and the WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 they look REAL nice for my SAAB 9000 here in New Hampshire. But my Mom does not go out in deep snow and she has AWD in Southern New York, so she only needs a All-season with average snow traction. She got along fine with the Bridgestone Potenzas RE92A's and they are rated BAD in snow traction on Tire Rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Tirerack does not have them but has anyone put Toyo Proxe 4's on there Roo? How is the light snow traction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 If you're interested in a real all-season tire you might check out Nokian WRs. We have them on out 97 Outback Sport and they're excellent. Unstopable in the snow/ice and feel like a regular all-season/summer tire in the dray and rain. They're priced around what other high quality tires are ($100 or so installed if I remember right). You'll have to call dealers for pricing, as there appears to be an agreement that prevents on-line advertising/selling of Nokian tires.http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/tires_popup.cfm?id=6 http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/home.cfm We also have a set of Goodyear Comfortreads (mentioned earlier) on our VW Golf. This is also a nice tire. I haven't had the chance to try it in snow/ice. I don't think it will do nearly as well from looking at it. We have a set of Blizzaks for the Golf in the winter, which doesn't even come close to the traction of the Subaru and the WRs. I have heard that the Nokian all season are great. I can't find a dealer close to me. ~Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Name away! I took the last Michelin off my OBW with 57,000 and they still had 6/32nd" of tread. We just replaced the tires on the cargo van at work - 95,000 miles on the front and 75,000 on the rears and still had 5/32" tread. The HydroEdges on the OBW now have gone 32,000 miles and have 9/32nd of tread left - new was 11/32nd. They're fantastic in rain, very good in snow and have good dry road cornering power. There isn't a tire on the market that's cheap enough to make it worthwhile cutting corners. The last OBW we sold went in a day when the buyers expressed confidence that it had been well maintained. Why did they think so? "You bought Michelins." I've had excellent luck with Goodyears as well, but they're not much less expensive, tire-to-tire. If you have specific data that shows that another less expensive tire has the snow traction, ice traction, wet braking power, and dry cornering power of the HydroEdge and costs less, I'm all ears. Certainly the tirerack surveys listed above indicate otherwise. Tires are one of those areas that if you "Cheap Out" you are going to think about it every time the weather gets bad. BTW NTB will give you a tire tread depth gage to measure your trad for free. Let's face it. Everyone has his preference. That's why they make chocolate, vanilla and strawberry ice cream. ~Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jib Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I have heard that the Nokian all season are great. I can't find a dealer close to me. ~Howard The WR is an awesome All weather tire. MY local dealer is actually trying to talk me out of a buying a second set of rims, with dedicated Nokian hakka snow tires, and into the WR on our stock rims for all season. This would be a huge cost impact to his business, but he and many of the techs at his shop really like the all weather performance of this tire. Try this to locate a dealer: http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/map.cfm I've bought mail order from both of these guys; both know Nokian tires very well: GREER ENTERPRISES 1909 S. 74th Street West Allis, WI 53219 Phone: (414) 545-2296 G&G Service 4073 Hubertus Road Hubertus, WI 53033 414-628-1716 Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milz Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I put these tires on my 02 outback and will never switch to another... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+V4S&partnum=26VR6V4S&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=1 Check out the all around high marks in every catagory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slats Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 what would be your suggestion for a nice winter /summer combo. I have a 2001 Legacy wagon GT and the Potenza's are needing to be replaced.(thank god ) I had one person recommend Yokohama V4 all seasons but I drive in an area that can get snow and the roads are mountainous. I am thinking of buying winters mounted on steel rims and then some nice summer performance tires mounted on the nice GT wheels next summer. The challenge is making the right move. The winter tire is confusing enough. Do I go Snow or ice. I would think Ice and the roads around here would be plowed regularlly and then leaving hard pack conditions and black ice. I would appreciate your suggestion. You are of course the ultimate judge of what you want to put on your car's rims but more and more the consensus is that if you happen to drive in sub zero temerature a good winter tire is a must. The main problem is the rubber compound of all seasons tires become much harder around -10C° and at that point you loose much of your traction on icy surfaces and your braking distances will be much longer.Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 what would be your suggestion for a nice winter /summer combo. I have a 2001 Legacy wagon GT and the Potenza's are needing to be replaced.(thank god )I had one person recommend Yokohama V4 all seasons but I drive in an area that can get snow and the roads are mountainous. I am thinking of buying winters mounted on steel rims and then some nice summer performance tires mounted on the nice GT wheels next summer. The challenge is making the right move. The winter tire is confusing enough. Do I go Snow or ice. I would think Ice and the roads around here would be plowed regularlly and then leaving hard pack conditions and black ice. I would appreciate your suggestion. Try the Nokian all-season that was suggested earlier. It's gotten some good reviews. ~Howard :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Anyone put Hankooks on there Roos'in 205/55R16?? They have some all-season offerings in the touring line for $55 a pop! But tread does not look good in snow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howards11 Posted September 16, 2005 Share Posted September 16, 2005 Anyone put Hankooks on there Roos'in 205/55R16?? They have some all-season offerings in the touring line for $55 a pop! But tread does not look good in snow! NOKIAN ALL SEASON. ~Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendly_jacek Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Does anyone know if the Nokians WR is rated as low rolling resistance tire. Alternatively, any experiences with gaining/loosing MPG with this tire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I put these tires on my 02 outback and will never switch to another... http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=Avid+V4S&partnum=26VR6V4S&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=1 Check out the all around high marks in every catagory! I was thinking of trying this tire. The price/performance ratio looks unbeatable. Yokohama has a solid record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottbaru Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I don't see the NRW on the Nokian site, maybe I'm not looking in the right place? I see them here http://www.tirefactory.net/nokian.htm, and on the website of a dealer here in town. Anyone know about this tire? My daughter has decided she loves my Legacy, so I'm looking for another 2.2l, and likely two sets of tires now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 Scott, you're right ...it's not on the Nokian site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnuman Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 While you are giving out recomendations. . . I'm looking for a good all season tire that is inexpensive, wears well (long tread life) and can be used with a 5 wheel rotation schedule (meaning it will see all positions on the car, so it has to roll well both ways). I'm using a full sized spare, so that has to be factored into the rotations, in order to protect my tranny. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 Sounds like we are looking for the same thing? What size do you need for your Roo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnuman Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 P185 70r14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted October 7, 2005 Share Posted October 7, 2005 P185 70r14 Longest wearing all seasons I have had on a '98 Legacy L wagon was a set of Mich. Radial X touring tires from Sam's Club tire centers. They were not great in the snow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Does anyone know if the Nokians WR is rated as low rolling resistance tire.Alternatively, any experiences with gaining/loosing MPG with this tire? Just ordered a set of BFG Traction T/A's for my Mom's '03 GT sedan 205/55R16. Tirerack.com and EVERYONE HERE rates them good at everything but many have reported loss of 1-3 MPG!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Just ordered a set of BFG Traction T/A's for my Mom's '03 GT sedan 205/55R16. Tirerack.com and EVERYONE HERE rates them good at everything but many have reported loss of 1-3 MPG!! Well had them put on and a four wheel alignment! Car handles WAY bettter, and no HUGE increase in road noise!! I think a very good choice for her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trxeslr66 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 I like the Toyo 800 Ultra tire with a 100,000 mile warranty, I had top end Deltas prior, and noticed a quieter ride and MUCH better snow and rain traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a97obw Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 The Toyo 800 Ultra tires are really nice tires. I put a set of them on my 92 Legacy AWD wagon about 5 years ago at 92k miles. I drove the car daily for a couple years and had to replace two of the tires due to nails. Fast forward, now the wagon has 159k miles, hasn't been driven more than 500 miles in the past 3 years, stored outside and the tires show no indication of dry rot. They don't have flat spots yet the 2 that are probably 20k newer have no indication of wear on the sides as the other 2. Unfortunately, the local dealer said they do not carry the 800 Ultras anymore. I wonder why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted November 3, 2005 Share Posted November 3, 2005 I see you are in Miss. can anyone coment on the snow traction of these long wearing tires. I had a set of Michelin X Radials on a '98 Legacy L wagon they wore like IRON but did not have ANY SNOW TRACTION!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger83 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I see you are in Miss. can anyone coment on the snow traction of these long wearing tires. I had a set of Michelin X Radials on a '98 Legacy L wagon they wore like IRON but did not have ANY SNOW TRACTION!!I've found the HydroEdge to be decent in snow. The dealer says the Harmony is better in snow than the HydroEdge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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