March 15, 200521 yr I'm a little confused at the moment. I've seen posts on here about the hill hold. Is this the same thing as the e-brake? What cars have it installed? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm new to subarus.
March 15, 200521 yr Seperate systems. Ebrake is a cable from that lever there in between the seats down to your front calipers. This allows you to operate the front brakes even if you have zero hydrolic pressure when you try to operate the normal brake pedal. Hill holder is a little device there below your Master Cylinder on the "frame rail". Its tied into the hydrolic brake system and clutch cable. It allows you to push in the clutch, hit the brake pedal and release brake pedal on a hill. So now you can just sit there, clutch in, shifter in 1st, ready to release and GO! No roll back. However most ppl who have used a clutch for any length of time can just go from brake to clutch so quickly the roll back is hardly noticable and or none at all. Not sure which models came with it. Someone else can prolly better answer that question. Hope this clarifies.
March 15, 200521 yr Nope, Hill Holder is actuated off the clutch pedal E-Brake is actuated off the handle... Different animals.... Morgan beat me too it. The problem is if you want to roll back while off-roading you can't just put your clutch pedal in and roll back a little. Because when you cover your brake it will stay on and not release untill you release your clutch again this time in neutral so it won't lock up again. I'm not a fan of the HH clutch system.... Glenn 82 SubaruHummer--No HH Clutch! 01 Forester--No HH Clutch!
March 15, 200521 yr Author That clarifies it. I have never seen that type of system before. All of my cars have been manuals, so I really wouldn't need it.
March 15, 200521 yr Not to mention when you release the brake to engage the HH, the break lights turn off and the guy behind you thinks you are moving so her plows into the back of your car!
March 15, 200521 yr Not to mention when you release the brake to engage the HH, the break lights turn off and the guy behind you thinks you are moving so her plows into the back of your car! I don’t think that’s true, I think the brake lights work off a hydraulic pressure switch in the HH side of the circuit. Some testing is in order. Gary
March 16, 200521 yr Not to mention when you release the brake to engage the HH, the break lights turn off and the guy behind you thinks you are moving so her plows into the back of your car! That person would be a complete air head then and needs to pay attention. I let off my brake pedal all the time at stop lights since I have a manual in both my cars. Never have I been rearended.
March 16, 200521 yr i believe the hill holder came on 82 and later manual trannies. no there is no electrical connection for this device the brake lights work off the pedal switch. anyone who would run into a stopped car because the brake lights are not on doenst need a drivers license.
March 17, 200521 yr Author I'm a glad I won't have to piss with it during my motor swap then. Got a new jdm ea71 shipping in this week. The less headaches, the better. I'm new to this style motor, so less the less hangups, the better.
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