njchen24 Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Greetings: Does anyone here treat inside and outside your new Subaru with Simoniz System 5 www.simonizusa.com. If so, does it really work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 comes up as a dead link nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchen24 Posted September 29, 2005 Author Share Posted September 29, 2005 nipper, I just try it and it's work. Please give it another try. Maybe the site was down for a short while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Oka little truth about teflon. I used to work with teflon all the time. Its a milky whiteliquid in its raw form. Scintering temperiture is aprox 575 degrees F. Tis is the temperiture where teflon actually melts and bonds with whatever surface it is on, or whatever it is mixed with. In this form it is being used as a barrier. One of things that you have to ask yourself, if it is a non stick surface, how can it stick to car paint? From looking at the web site, I dont see what makes it so special. Chemically I dont think it really adhears to the paint. Also I cant find a copy of the warrenty. Also I wonder about whay they say "Simoniz Double Bond with Teflon would be an outstanding product to have applied to your car while at the car wash" If nothing sticks to teflon, how can you apply more teflon to teflon? The only fragile color I've seen on here from subaru is the chaimpain or "pink" color.Personally I think its a waste of money. nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsmiths Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 The two best paint preservation products available are: 1. Carnuba wax. 2. Elbow grease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 yup nothing beats good old fashioned wax. By the way, how much are they asking for this "system" nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchen24 Posted September 30, 2005 Author Share Posted September 30, 2005 Thank you all for your comments. You get a good point. How can they coat with non stick Teflon. May be they have a special process. Anyway, they ask for $350 and warranty for 5Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 From looking at the "technician ceritification test" (hehe bet that looks good on the resume), they list a multiple choice question for apllication, none of which is anything different then you would do with paste wax. To get a car profesionally detailed here on NY it costs 100.00. I have afreind that has it done once a year, and uses the car wash inbetween. His paint hiolds up realy well. The simonize is not going to protect it from stone chips or anything else. I'ld go with the once a year detailing myself. I mean even with the simonizing you go to the car wash. Odd i noticed yesterday that my local car wash uses the "simonizing" process for a extra couple of bucks. I can tell you from working in the car wash industry (used to design the machines), a 50 gallon drum of selant cost us 350.00. We would dilute it 10:1, and sell it for 50.00 for a 5 gallon jug for 35.00 and even that was dilluted at the machine to 7ounces to 1 gallon water. Just food for thought on the cost basis of these things. nipper nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swc7916 Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The two best paint preservation products available are: 1. Carnuba wax. 2. Elbow grease. yup nothing beats good old fashioned wax. In the past wax was all we had. Now newer polishes such as Zainos are easier to apply, last longer, and have UV inhibitors that plain wax doesn't have. I've never gotten the results with wax that I have gotten with Zainos. Not knowing what Simoniz System 5 is, I wouldn't know how good it is; but considering that it's Simoniz, it's probably crap. To say that carnuba wax is the best paint preservation product available is just pure nonsense (IMHO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Did a little poking on the web found this http://www.cartalk.com/content/columns/Archive/2000/August/05.html http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2002/06/13/142004.html nipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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