elmwood22 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Having read the chiltons manual on replacing the water pump on this year car, I am left wondering what is it not telling me? It says to drop the oil pan, is this necessary? Also, about the timing belt- it was replaced at 90,000 miles, the car currently has 112,000miles I am not planning on replacing the belt, but do I have to be careful on leaving it in its current position? What else should I be looking for/ or replacing when I am in there? I don't want to spend a fortune replacing parts, but I do understand preventative maintenance. Any advice would be much appreciated. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 I really hate the chiltons & haynes manuals. They are absolutely horrible. There's no need to drop the oil pan. Basically, changing the water pump is like changing the timing belt, and involves the exact same steps except for that you need to drain the coolant first and loosen the bolts holding the water pump on. Here's scans for the timing belt job for the 90-94 legacies. Should be similar/same for the 95. http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt1.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt2.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt3.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt4.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt5.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt6.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt7.jpg http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt8.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlpineRaven Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Having read the chiltons manual on replacing the water pump on this year car, I am left wondering what is it not telling me? It says to drop the oil pan, is this necessary? Also, about the timing belt- it was replaced at 90,000 miles, the car currently has 112,000miles I am not planning on replacing the belt, but do I have to be careful on leaving it in its current position? What else should I be looking for/ or replacing when I am in there? I don't want to spend a fortune replacing parts, but I do understand preventative maintenance. Any advice would be much appreciated. J I wouldn't follow 3rd party books that aren't made by Subaru! trust me mate. Anyway no you don't... Oil pan stays there - all you need is to remove timing belt cover, and so on... if you're doing water pump job, its a good idea to change the timing belt at the same time doing water pump - that way you know its same age. Timing belt is required doing anyway, if you changed the pump and the timing needs replacing down the track - you're wasting your time so best to change it over at the same time. Cheers AP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Cam and crank seals along with the oil pump oring are also a good idea at that mileage. Is the water pump leaking? There is no need to change the pump unless something is wrong with it or you are in there and it has 100K on it. If the pump is still working and you watch for coolant level and your temp gauge you will see the failure before it has any - effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmwood22 Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 Yes, the water pump is leaking. The timing belt was replaced at 90,000, currently the car has 112,000 on it. I was planning on leaving the belt. Also, how much do the other parts cost. Where should I purchase them? We have a auto parts and auto center, are these places reliable for purchasing those other seals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rweddy Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 Yes, the water pump is leaking. The timing belt was replaced at 90,000, currently the car has 112,000 on it. I was planning on leaving the belt. Also, how much do the other parts cost. Where should I purchase them? We have a auto parts and auto center, are these places reliable for purchasing those other seals? I would not use anything but oem for seals, water pumps, etc. Because of all the labor involved in doing this you want to be sure you have the best parts in there, so you do not have to do the work again. I cheaped out long ago and used some cheap auto store parts, the water pump started leaking after 5,000 miles and I had to replace it. Of course the store gave me a new one but this did not help my hours of labor to replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPX Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 No need to pull oil pan for a water pump change. And I agree that OEM seals are the best choice. I hate the idea of paying a lot more for these parts. But I hate the idea of going back in to replace stuff again even more. My factory water pump died around 90,000 miles. Whatever pump the repair shop put in gave out at 135,000 miles - and it has cost me my headgasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmwood22 Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Replaced the pump with ease, didn't have a crankshaft wrench, but found a way around it. Seems to have taken care of the coolant leak thus far. Hopefully, the pump lasts and the gasket forms a good seal. I think the gasket on the last pump leaked, it seemed as though the last dealership didn't clean the connecting surface, there was some definite corrosion/rough surface. I guess time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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