erik litchy Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 so i have an alignment in about an hour i have cameber pates and RX springs. otherwise my loyale is stock what specs should i ask them to align to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 ok the front is good we went for -.5° camber in front, and were left with 1.7° caster, not much! but the rear gave us problems. right side AFTER .25° toe 0.4° camber left side after -.20° toe .0° camber this is not in spec! we used up all the adjustment to get this far, the baseline was really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 ok the front is goodwe went for -.5° camber in front, and were left with 1.7° caster, not much! but the rear gave us problems. right side AFTER .25° toe 0.4° camber left side after -.20° toe .0° camber this is not in spec! we used up all the adjustment to get this far, the baseline was really bad. Proably bad or at least shifted(towards the outside) bushings in the pivots of the control arm and trailing arm. Common in salty areas and espescially can be the result of a *sno-versteer* incident with a curb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) Proably bad or at least shifted(towards the outside) bushings in the pivots of the control arm and trailing arm. Common in salty areas and espescially can be the result of a *sno-versteer* incident with a curb. we did notice the rear bushings had more give in them than expected. i hate changing bushings edit is this an example of a bad one? i always waited until they cracked or deformed... Edited April 5, 2009 by erik litchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Looks like it, the rubber shifts inside the arm so that the arm ends up riding against one side of the mount, instead of centered. You can actually see some rub marks in the first picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 My EA81 sedan (which I put a EA81 wagon 4wd rearmember thingo in) had serious bad toe. Don't know what it was in degrees but the front of the right rear wheel was 8mm further out then the back (toe out), and the left rear wheel was 2mm closer inward on the front of the wheel to the back. You could easily see the right rear wheel was toe out. I tried the adjustment but it did nothing. So I done this They are now both 0degrees camber and 1mm to 1.5mm toe in on each wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 So I have a question on the front for you. When you reset the camber to -0.5 degrees, what did you set the front toe to? My current setup which I came up with for my RX with EJ parts in it has -1.20 camber +/- 0.75 degrees of tolerance. When I initially did my alignment, I set to a negative camber but set to a stock toe and since the EA cars initially have a positive camber/negative toe, going to a negative camber/negative toe gave me massive wear on the inside shoulders of the tires. So hopefully you had them set it to a 0.0 toe on the front when they gave you the negative camber. I dialed my RX in to a point where it handles like my friend's '05 STi on Tein Flex's. I also put in adjustable caster rods too though so I gained about 1.75 degrees of positive caster in the front. Road feel FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share Posted April 12, 2009 front toe is -.15° yeah those castor rods are hard to find... more money to spend when im going to spend it on the EJ swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suberdave Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 for front caster on my wagon i used some Acura bushings and that pushed the strut rod out and now i run +2.5* of caster... i love the way it handles... the only problem is when i set the caster that far +, the lower control arms hit the XT6 sway bar. however i love the way it handles even with no front sway bar... i will try putting a smaller one on it to see if that hits... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtcaravan Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 the only thing i can find for camber is camber adjustment bolts that give you 1.75 deg. + - adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboobaroo Posted April 19, 2009 Share Posted April 19, 2009 the only thing i can find for camber is camber adjustment bolts that give you 1.75 deg. + - adjustment. Those are going to be for EJ cars and maybe XT6? I put a lot of those into WRXs and STis. Erik, go back and have the alignment redone. You'll end up shredding the inside shoulders of the tires with negative camber, negative toe. Have the toe set to 0.00 degrees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted April 19, 2009 Author Share Posted April 19, 2009 Those are going to be for EJ cars and maybe XT6? I put a lot of those into WRXs and STis. Erik, go back and have the alignment redone. You'll end up shredding the inside shoulders of the tires with negative camber, negative toe. Have the toe set to 0.00 degrees i did take out some toe but the rear is obviously worse than the front. im considering adding these http://www.ingallseng.com/product.php?productid=16328&cat=0&page= at some point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soobscript Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 im considering adding these http://www.ingallseng.com/product.php?productid=16328&cat=0&page= at some point... Does that "leading rod" (or whatever) offer more adjustment than the stock piece? Does the stock piece allow adjustment? (also available from rockauto.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik litchy Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 Does that "leading rod" (or whatever) offer more adjustment than the stock piece?Does the stock piece allow adjustment? (also available from rockauto.com) i suppose if you are creative you can get some adjustment out of the stock by adding spacers, but its not nearly as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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