1. on a 5spd 5mt tranny, is there a way to make it a FWD only if you remove the driveshaft, or will it just try to transfer power to the back instead of front axles

 

2. Could you make a 5mt JUST RWD, by taking out the front axles, or would it also be the same

 

 

going to see about what it would take to turn my 92SS into a dirt track or figure 8 car, since the body is rusted beyond repair, i think this would do just fine in those races and they dont have awd or 4wd classes.

Edited August 4, 200916 yr by bheinen74

Seriously if your looing for things to do with your rusty ss. We could always swap the drivetrain into my car. I mean since you would just rather destroy it, it could live on in my car.

The stuff's been asked, and done but I don't know if it's been done on here. It's defenitely been done on NASIOC. Search over there if you really want to do it.

 

RWD is accomplished by basically removing the shaft part of the front half shafts and welding the center diff solid. The outter half shaft acts as the spindle for the front wheels so it has to stay. The rest of the half shaft can go. Then you have to weld up the center diff for a bunch of reasons that I just don't have the time to type. Problem with this if doing it for racing or what not is the rear diff and half shalfts. They just aren't meant to handle all the power all the time.

 

FWD isn't as easy and I don't know the specifics. If you pull the rear drive shaft you have to plug the hole and I don't know if you can swap a different end plate on to the trans. As for the diff and rear hubs I don't know.....

If FWD MT existed, and I believe it was, there has to be a rear cover that would interchange with tail housing, just like on auto transmissions. But then you might have to remove the transfer gear from the output shaft if it's removable, or replace the shaft with FWD type, at which point it would be easier to simply swap the whole thing.

Edited August 4, 200916 yr by avk

The stuff's been asked, and done but I don't know if it's been done on here. It's defenitely been done on NASIOC. Search over there if you really want to do it.

 

RWD is accomplished by basically removing the shaft part of the front half shafts and welding the center diff solid. The outter half shaft acts as the spindle for the front wheels so it has to stay. The rest of the half shaft can go. Then you have to weld up the center diff for a bunch of reasons that I just don't have the time to type. Problem with this if doing it for racing or what not is the rear diff and half shalfts. They just aren't meant to handle all the power all the time.

 

FWD isn't as easy and I don't know the specifics. If you pull the rear drive shaft you have to plug the hole and I don't know if you can swap a different end plate on to the trans. As for the diff and rear hubs I don't know.....

 

FWD, you'd weld the diff, and plug the rear housing.

 

If, that is, the power to the center diff is fed into the ring gear and then power to the front wheels is fed through one 'axle' (as though it's a rear-wheel-drive diff), and power to the rear wheels through the other 'axle'.

 

Dave

the answer is "no"...sort of. the trans isn't set up to run like you suggest or desire. power will be transferred to the axle-less wheels or the rear output shaft if you remove those components.

 

if you're lucky, you might be able to drive it like that and fry the innards enough to lock the viscous coupler but not damage something else.

 

the easier method would be to just use a FWD transmission or a 5MT with torque bind. i know people that have done that, run a trans with a critical case of the torque bind in RWD.

yeah no it will not work like that if you remove a front axle on a 5 speed AWD trans from a legacy it will move on the rear wheel power but slowly due to the front diff still being open if you can split the trans and weld the front diff you may be able to get all the power out the rear. If you remove the rear driveline and put some kind of plug over the out shaft to keep gear oil in you can drive it just fine. i know because i did it well not welding the front diff but i removed the front axles.

Good post though, have thought similar if there was an easy on and off kit.

Only in the winter do we need AWD and in the summer it would be nice to save some gas, if it would save gas.

 

As is the Sub get the same mileage as our old Buick wagon with a monster carb'ed V8 that will put grins ear to ear when ya step on it. Then make ya giggle when it shifts and kick sideways.

 

Why I drive the Buick 99% of the time, same mileage and just more fun.

Until it snows more then 2ft and I enjoy how the AWD will go through anything without even trying.

Edited August 5, 200916 yr by Buick350X

the answer is "no"...sort of. the trans isn't set up to run like you suggest or desire. power will be transferred to the axle-less wheels or the rear output shaft if you remove those components.

 

if you're lucky, you might be able to drive it like that and fry the innards enough to lock the viscous coupler but not damage something else.

 

 

yeah no it will not work like that if you remove a front axle on a 5 speed AWD trans from a legacy it will move on the rear wheel power but slowly due to the front diff still being open if you can split the trans and weld the front diff you may be able to get all the power out the rear. If you remove the rear driveline and put some kind of plug over the out shaft to keep gear oil in you can drive it just fine. i know because i did it well not welding the front diff but i removed the front axles.

 

Did you guys both miss where I said

 

Then you have to weld up the center diff for a bunch of reasons that I just don't have the time to type.

 

 

 

Also, this stuff really has been done..... All you have to do is look on NASIOC. People do the RWD conversion for drifting, and I know someone who did it for rallying. (There is a special 2wd rally cup called MAX Attack that offers some pretty good prize money.)

FWD isn't as easy and I don't know the specifics. If you pull the rear drive shaft you have to plug the hole and I don't know if you can swap a different end plate on to the trans. As for the diff and rear hubs I don't know.....

 

FWD only WOULD be just as easy.

 

Weld the center diff of the trans

 

Remove rear half of the driveline. Leave the front half and the carrier bearing installed in the back of the trans. It will just spin freely.

 

Remove shaft and inner cups from rear CV axle, leaving the spindle through the wheels.

 

If you want to save more weight, you can also remove the rear diff, and the shafts and inner cups of the rear CV. Leave the outer cups installed through the hubs.