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1987 GL Wagon To Brat? Possible?


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#1 Mysticcal

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 04:38 PM

Wondering if it's possible to change the body of my 1987 GL into something more Brat, It looks similiar in size, not sure though, can someone confirm?

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 04:44 PM

If you can cut, weld and have an imagination, anything is possible.

Its been done with a 3 door coupe, and I know of at least 1 person doing it with a wagon. But every single step involves some sort of custom fabrication, so its not for the fain ot heart.

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 04:51 PM

Got any pics on these?

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 04:54 PM

Got any pics on these?


Nope.. They are aound somewhere, but I don't have any.. I'm sure clayton will pop in with a pic of his wagon.. And for ther life of me I can't remember who had the three door

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 05:00 PM

I've got a fauxtoshop pic of my '87 as a Brat at home. I'll post it when I get off work and home from the gym.

Wait ... I don't know how to post, I'll have to put in my album (if it's still there).

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 05:03 PM

http://usmb.net/gall...leMuleAtRubicon

Here's one...

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 05:31 PM

If I can't find a Brat that I can afford (and maybe even if I do :brow: ) I am planning on giving this a try. My plan is to do a bed stretch, too.

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 07:30 PM

i know there is someone here good with photoshop.have them take a wagon picture, and make it look like a brat.this way you could see how it will look and where to cut.then take out the recipricating saw, and start cuttin:grin:
good luck with it
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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:05 PM

i know there is someone here good with photoshop.have them take a wagon picture, and make it look like a brat.this way you could see how it will look and where to cut.then take out the recipricating saw, and start cuttin:grin:
good luck with it
jon


Like this?
http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/photos/showphoto.php?photo=5356&sort=1&size=medium&cat=585&page=1

Or, if your taste leans more toward the Baja, like this. http://www.ultimates...&cat=585&page=1

Sorry about the links kludge, I just don't get the photo insert process.

I don't have PhotoShop, so I had to use CorelDraw ... FauxtoShop?

My thoughts:
Gut the interior and side glass (save the headliner and window trim).
Cut off rear greenhouse just behind the 'B' pillar.
Saw the tailgate in half just below the window.
Move the whole schlemiel forward and tack it back together (after welding the rear doors shut - leave the window regulators in place).
Cut the back door windows to fit the new tringular openings and reinstall in the regulators.
Cut another tailgate in half and hinge it at the bottom. Fab up a latching mechanism.
Cut the headliner and window trims to fit and trim in. Use 'Marinetex' to fair the cut plastic pieces together.
Fab up new bedliner U-Channel frames and 3/16" Lexan, or plywood), including a drop-down wall underneath the relocated back window, with appropriate latches/locks. Include bed buckets, so you can make up a ladder or canoe rack for those needful times.
Drill drain holes in the rear storage well, then spray the whole thing with bedliner.
Fab up a trim to cover the edge of the bed.
Finish the welds, prime and paint to suit.

Now you have a cab+, with opening rear and 'B' glass, and a bed with drop-down front and rear for long loads.

Optional:
Leave the rear seat in place, replace the carpet and interior walls with waterproof materials and fab up strut locks for the back glass. Now, you have a 'Brat Nuveau', with forward facing rear seat and (locking the rear glass in a horizontal position) rain cover.

Mudrat, are you watching? Find me the rust-free donor wagon (specs in post below). I can sell my '95 to my next-door neighbor anytime ... in fact, he wants it right now.


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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:12 PM

And, while we're at it here. I still want a Subaru pickup. My '95 legacy won't work, the greenhouse changes width overall as you move aft (gets narrower). I've really gotten spoiled by the more sophisticated AWD system, and creature comforts however. What years were the 'crossover' models produced ... EA82 body, but AWD, ABS, all that stuff? Also are the EA82 sunroofs sliders, pop-ups, both?

I still want my 'Rancheru', but I want A/T, air, power everything, airbags, ABS, AWD, sunroof (won't have track space anymore, would have to do with pop-up).

Can I have my cake and cut off the rear greenhouse too?

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 08:20 PM

thats a tight .......wagon or whatever its called....i like it.....spark:cool:

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:05 PM

Here's a pic of Bratsrus1's hatch that he made into a brat. Its called the HatchBrat!!:) He even went through the trouble of welding the part of the brat that the bed trim connects to onto the hatch. I have another pic somewhere of it from the rear. I'll look for it tonight.

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:15 PM

I ment buy the body of a brat that is similiar dimensions to my chassis and mount it onto the chassis of my GL... :)?

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 09:38 PM

I ment buy the body of a brat that is similiar dimensions to my chassis and mount it onto the chassis of my GL... :)?


Unibody car.. theres no 'frame' to mount stuff to

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 10:07 PM

Ahhh. I see, now just deciding on the baja style or the pick-up style before I get cracking :)

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 10:29 PM

Ahhh. I see, now just deciding on the baja style or the pick-up style before I get cracking :)



I was envisioning something like this, except unfortuneately, it's a model :(

http://www.sonic.net...krs/Dahm/E5.JPG

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Posted 20 April 2005 - 11:42 PM

That's a cool model but what's with the wing???

Maybe it is mistitled as a honda brat

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 12:26 AM

i ahve a couple of pics of a wagon with the back roof chopped off leaving it more like a baja... in fact there was the thread about this a while back...

http://www.ultimates...agon brat doors

there it is... i have pics on my other comp... i'll try and get them later... its hard to see though because it has a cover on the back...

its very do-able but be sure that you strengthen up thet back really good... because its a uni-body a bunch of strength comes from the roof... so cross-bracing and what not is important... and when you cut it, put in supports to makes sure the body won't bend... it'll really suck if you get it done then take it down the freeway and it is stuck with a slight turn to one side...

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:09 AM

I was envisioning something like this, except unfortuneately, it's a model :(

http://www.sonic.net...krs/Dahm/E5.JPG


That is a Brat! Not somthing like a Brat.
That's the Tamiya Mudblaster R/C in 1/10th scale.

Wanna sell it? (without the wing)

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Posted 21 April 2005 - 10:12 AM

going to use it as a model when modding my car. I'll probably keep it either way, sorry :)




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