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OK, very good to know. Many thanks. John

Thanks John. Assuming that all were power, any idea of what percent were heated (my 96 is) and can one tell from the lead if the replacement (junk yard) is? John

Hi, Looking for a passenger side rear-view mirror for my 96' OBW. Anyone know if a 95' Legacy mirror will fit? John

Roger that. Will try to schedule some alone time with the engine before I deliver to mechanic and before its swapped. Will start specing out requisite swap parts now and will include pan and internal gasket.

OK... Back on the happy train... Though there are still a few questions as to coil pack compatibility (all the parts places indicate identical parts 95/2.2 & 96/2.5 and used ones are cheap and readily available within 20 miles), sounds like the rest should go. Have monitored a few of the posts re: flex plates (re: growling\rattling...), should I consider replacing (or having a replacement on hand), should it "look bad" (will cracks\fatigue be apparent?). Will dig deeper to bone up on the oil seperator thing and will be printing and compiling all of this for delivery to my mechanic. Will definately be replacing all seals (though may wait on the oil pan and valve covers/seals until the girl is in motion again. Much appreciated all. -John

Wow Wayne, sounds like you've been through it... (and actually, I know next to nothing about A/C!) If I end up having to buy one, will comb through the junkyards first (prices run $20-200... though obviously have no idea of how they were stored)... aftermarkets $250-400.. but I guess more reliable.. "1996 OEM is PAG for 134a refrigerant".... can you translate?... Any ideas as to swappability between A/C compressors in a 95 2.2 and 96 2.5? Getting conflicting yeas\nays.... I guess if I can get the car up and running now with the 2.2 and used 4EAT I can rob enough liquor stores to be able to get A/C by Summer! -John

Hi Nathan, Will first of all be shooting for a complete 2.2 engine, with all of the "periferals"... but short of that.. Checked on Partsamerica.com, and rockauto.com and they list identical replacement part numbers on a 1995 2.2 and 1996 2.5 for: Coil pack Alternator Starter Power Steering Pump (some question @ rockauto) (looks like spark plug wires are different... 2X price for 2.5!) But list different A/C compressors.. (looks like the holes might line up differently). 95 2.2. http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=FAA&mfrpartnumber=67652&parttype=387&ptset=A 96 2.6 http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=FAA&mfrpartnumber=67443&parttype=387&ptset=A Would *really* love not having to yank the A/C, and sounds like you've been into this. How sure are you on the A/C?

Moving ahead with swapping in a 95 EJ22 into my 1996 OBW (with dying EJ25). Crosswalking the stuff the place I'm looking at strips off before they sell the engine) and so far: A search at Partsamerica.com (thanks JE) has shown identical replacement parts for the two years\engines for: Alternator Coil Pack Starter Power steering pump So am good there. Looks like the 2.2 has a different AC Compressor than whats on my 2.5. Can I just leave it off (until Spring)? Outside of needing to replace the condensor, would this create any bad juju? -John

OK, so it sounds if I hard target a 95' 2.2 that comes *with* original intake manifold, throttle, and EGR that the rest should be good. Pretty comfortable just swapping my current tranny (specifying same production date 12/95 and TZ102Z2ABA, as is mine). Will look further on the details of the AC, etc. and plan on stopping down to my local Sube dealer with a box of donuts and $20 bill tomorrow and seeing how many additional compatibility details I can come away with.. Appreciate all the help. -John

Roger that.... delicacy comes second...

Wow, good to hear (and somewhat disturbing...). Went through an earlier round of inputs... most folks were saying that the 95 2.2 had the dual port exhaust and EGR (as does my 96 2.5) and that everything else "was plug and play". (pretty sure that Grossgary has done the same swap on a legacy) Obviously strongly inclined to trust your experience.. Assuming I wanted to get an EJ22 in, (again I have a 96 OBW EJ25\4EAT), any idea of what year (and transmission pairing, EJ22/4EAT (what I am looking for), EJ22/5MT) match would provide the least # of problems in terms of (the things currently on my radar): exhaust ECU EGR wiring\sensors (assuming the 2.2 will fit the 96 4EAT without issue, which should (as close as I can tell) circumvent the TCU and rear differential ratio issue (will be getting a replacement for my same 12/95 production date 4EAT). I've been talking to a Subaru "master tech", who has a shop in his garage, and want to try and scout out as many of these issues as I can (since he'd shooting for doing the job within a day and obviously more issue=more time=$.. Thanks Josh..

Found a used 1995 EJ22 that I want to swap into my 1996 OBW from a CT yard.. Things the 2.2 doesnt come with: "starter, alternator, steering pump, turbo, supercharger, Ac compressor, and ECU. Coil packs, distributors and throttle bodies are not included." "Almost all engines will include intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, fuel system, harness, and sensors. In most cases when installing a used engine you would use your existing intake manifold(s), exhaust manifold(s), sensors, and harness to eliminate complications." Almost?!! How much will come off of and fit from my 2.5? Starter Alternator Steering pump AC Compressor ECU Coil Pack Distributor (?) Throttle body? Sensors\Harness? Once the 2.2 is in (and running!) will do the timing belt, water pump, seals, probably oil pump.... Can I use the (<3kmi) water pump, timing belt idlers from the 2.5? Assuming the ECU will work and anticipate that the 95 2.2, with dual port exhaust will match my current exhaust. Guestimates? as to seals, gaskets, incidentals that typically accompany such a swap? (found a guy to do the engine for $500... he's saying same labor to do the tranny later.... $250... but will try to do at same time... will be getting a 1996 4EAT to try and avoid rear differential and TCU issues.

For a newbie, can I ask what the implements of destruction are intended for (hammer, chisel, hacksaw)?... Will be (paying someone) to swap a 2.2 for a 2.5 in my 96 OBW and am just curious if those are time saving shortcuts to keep yard time down versus something you'd do "the long way" on a car that ran.

Brakes, calipers? Have you checked the pads? (sticky piston?)

Good to know and yes, please lets know how it goes... I'm the kind of wus that gets ticked at how hard it is to even get to the damn plugs into my OBW (last car I did any work on was my 71' Nova, and you could bloody climb in and spend the weekend there!.... crescent wrench and a hammer and you could fix most things...). Still very much figuring out these tight compact aluminum computer deals. Will have to start researching lifts\hoists next..... Somehow seems that at least if you had the engine and tranny out and could see what the heck you were doing, you would at least have some purchase to grab ahold of different points and get them seated (obviously all theoreticaly for me since I've never done it). But clearly like the idea of manuevering a heavier, mated pair back in strategically versus busting knuckles in awkward positions for hours... but that just me... Good luck. John

How about putting them back in (mated)? Have seen posts about getting "the last 1\4 inch" right on the transmission seated back into the engine..(forcing of which reportedly can crush the transmission filter?). Obviously seems that it'd be easier to wrestle them together outside.... If the clearance issues are adjusted when pulling out, can they be negotiated back in? John

Yeah... thats kind of where I'm heading... A bit pissed that I'll be walking away from the $700+ that I just put into the 2.5 (TB, water pump, most all of the idlers..etc....), will try to get back in and yank and see if I can get something for em through here.. Any chance that the water pump would be the same, 2.2, 2.5? Will definately put in an oil pump (learned my lesson!..) et al.... though may try to get by until Spring (or at least a warm patch...). Feels like the leaky rear strut on my Impreza just blew out last night... so am getting the hints to get busy, quick... If nothing shows by next weekend, will probably drive over to CT... (think I fit a used engine in the trunk\rear seat of my Impreza)?

Would be interested to knowing the build up to said emergence... Have a 96 OBW with (increasingly likely) rod knock, now to the point that the engine is reluctant to even start... Any emerging knocking sounds? As per: http://media.putfile.com/Knocking-Subaru-Engine-22L (early stages... IMO) http://media.putfile.com/1996-Subaru-OBW-engine-knock http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58174&page=3&highlight=knock (final stages?!)

John, Thanks, very much appreciated... Will add the rearend to my wish list (esp. if I can find a 95 Legacy with a 2.2\4EAT) will try to grab the whole drive line... sounds\feels like this should give me a 4.11, so will give me some latitude when I try the swap. I will definately be sticking with an automatic so will be spending the weekend (pending the impending ice storm that we are threatened with!), counting teeth! (and combing for wrecks...) . -John

Roger that.... From New Milford myself, so know the area... am looking at a 2.2 in Waterbury, only $375 but its got 145k on it... I know, I know, "thats not that much for a Sube".... but would very much like to start with something less than 100k...

Roger that.... From New Milford myself, so know the area... am looking at a 2.2 in Waterbury, only $375 but its got 145k on it... I know, I know, "thats not that much for a Sube".... but would very much like to start with something less than 100...

Finding conflicting info on matching trannies to rear differential (and how to even tell what rear end I have).. My 1996 OBW 2.5\4EAT engine and tranny went south.... Looking for: 1. First choice 1995 EJ22\4EAT combo out of the same (crashed) car 2. 1995 EJ22 and 1996 4EAT from seperate cars... Question still looms: A. How do I know what my current rear differential ratio is? (is pulling the plug and counting "teeth" the only way? How many count for what ratio? B. How will I know what rear end option #1 needs (4.1 or 4.44?) Since they seem to be so cheap, even tempted to - Try to find out what I have - Pick up "the other", so I have both on hand... Some folks claim EJ2.5 automatics are all 4.44 manuals are 4.1 But that might diverge with 2.2.... I'm getting the impression that this might be a trial and error deal... Opinions? http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=67201&highlight=rear+differential+4.1

How about if I do as several posts suggest: pull the plug on the rear end and count the threads (?).... For my 96 EJ25\4EAT, any idea of what number will match up to what my ratio is? (I may run another thread on this to see if anyone might take a guess...). This being my first time through with the mechanic I've found, I'd like to try and ferret out any potential issues as much as I can up front... I actually did get into an auction where I actually bought this car ($2650 @ auction.... guy who got me in drove it up another $1200, but it was still well under book... too bad it *:!(* the bed....!!!). I thought there actually were a few wrecks up there... so who usually buys these things? Small shops for swapping parts from?

But on matching the rear differentials.. can I ask again how that is done in practice? Does it hold that an automatic will have a 4.44 rear end and a 5speed a 4.1? And (seems like it should be obvious but I have to confess to not know) will the same junk yards that sell used engines\trannys also be the same sources for wrecks? (always wondered where the junkers go after the insurance pays off...) the the online shops (junkyarddog.com kind of places) pretty much it, or are there other wreck places that have the whole cars?

Both very good tips... Starting to locate junk yards within driving distance... would very much like to be able to see anc check out the unit before buying (versus having it shipped). Will be interested to see also about VIN on transmission.