raybo Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 have '99 2.2 liter legacy wagon with 170,000 mi. Have been using 10-30 oil. Recently noticed clicking valve sound for first few minutes of driving at beginning of day. Also a slight miss when first starting. Should I try an additive like Sea Foam or Marvel? Noticed on one blog that some 2.2 liters had problem with valve guides dropping to cause sticking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 My 97 2.2 clicks away in the morning when it is cold out for 2 to 3 miles then goes away. It has been this way for 70K miles. I would not try any additive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairtax4me Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Try using 5w 30 oil. Might help to use a high mileage mix to clean out any varnish or sludge that may be in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOthis Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 My 97 2.2 clicks away in the morning when it is cold out for 2 to 3 miles then goes away. It has been this way for 70K miles. I would not try any additive. +1 ^...my 96 does this also...weak HLA(s) I'm sure...but its been like this forever...no significant problems yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlm30 Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 MY 96 outback 5 speed with EJ22 does this as well, I tried 5w30 but it didnt help much, I just let it idle for couple of mins before I drive it every morning:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pgh_Scoob Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 My 97 impreza does the same thing as well. I read on mitchells program that this is common for imprezas at first start up. Let the car warm up and it should go away. If it persists then you want to start checking into it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 a tapping sound at start up that goes away when warm is commonly due to piston slap. EJ engines are very prone to this - mostly EJ25's and sometimes EJ22's. it is completely benign and doesn't effect anything, just turn the radio up and keep your windows closed! if it diminishes after warming up and stays constant i would guess it's piston slap. if it's more variable than that then i'd guess HLA's. subaru has a redesigned piston to alleviate piston slap it but it's hardly worth the time considering the problem doesn't affect anything except maybe sanity if you're not able to withstand the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qman Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 have '99 2.2 liter legacy wagon with 170,000 mi. Have been using 10-30 oil. Recently noticed clicking valve sound for first few minutes of driving at beginning of day. Also a slight miss when first starting. Should I try an additive like Sea Foam or Marvel? Noticed on one blog that some 2.2 liters had problem with valve guides dropping to cause sticking. Part of the problem is that it is so cold. Even the 10-30 can experience this. The oil is too thick at start up when it is so cold. Kind of like pouring molasses through a straw. Try a lighter weight oil after a small amount of seafoam. Otherwise, it may be that the oil passages in the rockers are getting clogged and can not get enough oil through them. This can cause premature failure in the HLA's. I know of a source if you find they are bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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