I'm in the midst of throwing an intercooler on Murphy, the $500 87 Turbo Wag. I have all the parts I need, just have to make the time to throw the thing together. I am quite prepared to end up blowing the engine. I hope it doesn't, but I know how finicky EA82T are. If that happens, I very well might consider doing the EJ22 swap. I have 2 questions:

 

1) How has that fared as far as the lords of the smog controls here in California. Has anyone passed the inspection in this state with this swap? I just had it smogged and registered late last year, so I have a while (2 years) before it becomes a concern and has to be smogged again.... unless they change the rules and make it every year. Hey, it's California, you never know (I probably shouldn't even type this suggestion, as they may be watching and gives them ideas).

 

2) What is the difference in the power. I know the 2.2 puts out about 20 more HP, but can you feel the difference? Is this set-up actually faster, if not in reality, at least in feel, than the turbo. I find the turbo a blast to drive. I don't blow away anyone, but the power boost is, well, fun! What are your experiences?

Edited January 11, 201016 yr by Sonicfrog

you can add a turbo the EJ22 as well. it handles light boost really well and reliably.

you can add a turbo the EJ22 as well. it handles light boost really well and reliably.

 

 

Really? Even with its stock 9.7:1 compression? Are you talking like 3 psi here?

 

I've seen a few stock non-turb engines with high compression had turbos slapped on, and even at low boost (5 -7 psi) they all seemed to die pretty fast.

 

Would love to know more!

Really? Even with its stock 9.7:1 compression? Are you talking like 3 psi here?

 

I've seen a few stock non-turb engines with high compression had turbos slapped on, and even at low boost (5 -7 psi) they all seemed to die pretty fast.

 

Would love to know more!

 

For a lot of turbo'd motors, that's doesn't even seem very high.

 

I know not subaru related, but my boosted vr (completely stock motor with the exception of mk4 headgasket) handled 8 psi no problem with 10.5:1, and I know most hondas are even higher then that (like k series motors)

For a lot of turbo'd motors, that's doesn't even seem very high.

 

I know not subaru related, but my boosted vr (completely stock motor with the exception of mk4 headgasket) handled 8 psi no problem with 10.5:1, and I know most hondas are even higher then that (like k series motors)

 

Of course you'd have to use an aftermarket ECU or get the stock one chipped, no?

Of course you'd have to use an aftermarket ECU or get the stock one chipped, no?

 

I used a chip. But it would be best to use some sort of stand alone

But none of this answers the question. Forget about mod'ing the EJ22. Do you feel the difference with a normally aspired EJ22 in a GL chassis?

But none of this answers the question. Forget about mod'ing the EJ22. Do you feel the difference with a normally aspired EJ22 in a GL chassis?

 

Read. Yes, you will. It doesn't have a whole ton more power, but a noticeable amount (In my opinion), being as ej22's have about 25hp more. It won't be super fast, but it will be pretty quick. So again, the answer to your question is yes.

 

And as the others were saying; if that isn't enough for you, then you can turbo it.

Edited January 12, 201016 yr by brysawn

You are going to notice more power at lower rev's.

I used a chip. But it would be best to use some sort of stand alone

 

And here I was thinking turboing a non-turbo engine was a death sentence for it. Thanks bro, will look into it!

I have everything except for the adapter plate to do my swap from ea82 to ej22. I will eventually add a turbo as well, I have the turbo, intercooler, and down pipe. I just need to get the turbo header/ uppipe and a MegaSquirt stand alone ECU. I'm just worried about my dual range 5 speed dying, I think that if i can ease into my take offs instead of just launching it that it should last.

Good luck with the mega squirt. I would just run with the stock EJ22 ECU.

Hi. guys. I'm running a older high mileage D/R in my 88 GL T. & it's held up well. If I'm fixin' to blow of a noisy Honda @ the stop lite, I just slide the little lever forward a notch & all is well. Some great projects goin' on here. Thanks, Steve.

1) How has that fared as far as the lords of the smog controls here in California. Has anyone passed the inspection in this state with this swap?

 

the law in ca is you can swap in a non-factory motor under 2 conditions:

 

1 - the retrofitted engine is of equal or greater displacement.

 

2 - the retrofitted engine meets all CA visual and emissions tests for the vehicle it came from. this means you have to use the donor's evap can, cats - everything emissions related has to be swapped to match the donor...EVERYTHING.

 

what'll happen is, next time you go to smog it and its been retrofitted the smog guy will refer you to the CA Bureau of Automotive Repair to have your vehicle inspected by a BAR Smog Referee. The ref will check that you meet CA emissions for the donor vehicle and if you did your swap properly and pass emissions he'll put a sticker in your engine bay that tells all future smog guys you see to smog your vehicle according to the donor car's criteria.

 

i have personal experience with this from my SPFI retrofit and am about to try smogging my SPFI BRAT once i can scrape some $ together.

Edited January 13, 201016 yr by mountaingoatgruff

Good luck with the mega squirt. I would just run with the stock EJ22 ECU.

 

My brother is doing a MegaSquirt on hi RX, i'm going to let him do it first.

Good luck with the mega squirt. I would just run with the stock EJ22 ECU.

 

it's not that difficult.

OK. This is more like it! Great info guys.

 

I'm hoping to install the IC today. I have the vacuum actuated blow-by valve, I just need to find a couple of el's and couplers to finish the mod.

 

PS. MGGruff, thanks for the smog info.... and the Leggy tranny. There was a noise for a while, like a bearing inside the tranny was failing. But it went away and all is working great.

how about the EJ25D then ? that´s a swap i want to do and i´m thinking 165hp in a 1050kg car could get into 14´s at the 1/4mile ?