Hi guys,

I just bought my 92 subaru loyale, and the shop says they found gas in the radiator, and it either means a cracked head or bhg. I want to save some money and do it myself, the engine, trans and diff fsm should come in next week, and I have read that the felpro permatorque hgs are the way to go to avoid retorquing. Where do I find these? I am thinking about settling on the oem ishino gaskets, but I thought I'd come here to see if anyone could help me find the permatorque ones. Thanks!

Autozone will have them...

 

But if you want them shipped its part number 9392PT for the Fel-Pro permatorques... You can chose them on ebay or Amazon.com or probably any online parts store...

 

Dont forget to have your heads machined and do brand new seals, water pump and timing belt (might as well) reseal the oil pump to avoid ticking lifters, fix other leaks etc... might as well

 

and if youre a bit on the "can have car down and money to spend" ship your cams off to Delta Cams for a torque grind (research this to find out specifics) and youll get a noticeable improvement in hill climbing power (optional obviously)

Edited May 11, 201213 yr by 92_rugby_subie

Thank you! and thanks for the tips too. I have plenty of time over the summer, and I can also afford to put my car out of commission. The site doesn't make any mention of prices though..

Price is for one side. You need two.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200711649216?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Great, thanks. I ordered the HS9392PT2 hg set last night, but I wouldn't have found it without help. Thanks guys!

Hi guys,

I just bought my 92 subaru loyale, and the shop says they found gas in the radiator, and it either means a cracked head or bhg.

 

Did they do a compression test or any other form of investigation? Did they change the coolant and if not, do you see or smell gas in the radiator? Seems like a lot of work without further verification of the problem.

I've heard of oil in the coolant, water in the oil, but gas in the coolant? Has it been overheating?

I am part too lazy, part too busy. I guess I've just been thinking that I would have to do it sooner or later anyways, it's at about 160k, and it seems like these cars are very prone to bhgs, might as well do it over the summer. I have finals coming up and I haven't done anything to the car. but yes, I know, how easy is it to sniff the radiator? I can never seem to remember until it's gotten too hot, then I just walk away and forget again until the next time its too hot to open. I'll definitely do a compresion check soon, finals is coming up, just 2 more weeks and I'll have plenty of time to get some work in

 

oh yes, and no overheating at all, but I guess I don't drive too far/too long either

We use a tool at ourshop that "sniffs" for exhaust gases. It pulls fumes out of radiator and changes the color of liquid that fumes have to pass through if exhaust gases are detected. Maybe the gas they spoke of was not gasoline but rather exhaust gases.

sorry everyone, finals have been kicking my rump roast. What they have written down is "300HC found in radiator". So gasoline right? Anyways, I'll finally start doing some serious research and prep to do my hg, I'll start watching milesfox videos and taking notes, and I'll borrow my buddy's hoist and do it out of the car next week.

HC is Hydrocarbons, not gasoline. Just a byproduct.

Oh. Is that an issue? to find fumes in the radiator?

Edit- I'm sorry, I just searched and found my answer. Same issue, bhg or cracked head. I'm sorry if I confused anyone saying there was gas in the radiator.

Edited May 29, 201213 yr by ll77

when you see the crack...it's ok...it's called bridge. IF you feel not right ...you may go to test NAPA machine, if they pass test.

i already order new pair of head from Seattle,wa and went goood sounds back in early 1990's.

radiator...did you go to test in radiator shop local?

what is look like yours spark plug color is?

 

Oh. Is that an issue? to find fumes in the radiator?

Edit- I'm sorry, I just searched and found my answer. Same issue, bhg or cracked head. I'm sorry if I confused anyone saying there was gas in the radiator.

sorry everyone, finals have been kicking my rump roast. What they have written down is "300HC found in radiator". So gasoline right? Anyways, I'll finally start doing some serious research and prep to do my hg, I'll start watching milesfox videos and taking notes, and I'll borrow my buddy's hoist and do it out of the car next week.

a "300HC" is probably a gas analyzer which would detect things like carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons(exhaust gasses) in your coolant

No, I haven't gone to a radiator shop yet, but I'll go and change my spark plugs tomorrow and I'll let you know how they look. Also, there seems to be a bolt missing between the alternator and A/C pulleys, I'll take a picture to show you guys tomorrow, but I can see a hole w/ threads, so there must have been a bolt there at one point.. I got my head set (Felpro HS 9392 PT-2) last week, do you guys recommend doing the valve seals while the heads are out? The FSM says I need Mr. 398852100 oil seal installer to put the seals in, any alternatives?

 

 

See, there's a threaded yellow hole down between where it seems a bolt used to be. I'm at a loss as to what its purpose was.

A/C tensioner holder for belt.

i have one but i was removed and not need for AC belt for me (improved MPG).

thats why you dont have other second belt.

 

 

 

See, there's a threaded yellow hole down between where it seems a bolt used to be. I'm at a loss as to what its purpose was.

Edited May 31, 201213 yr by Suba_GL_87

Ahh ok thanks I was worried it might have been important

Hey guys, I was thinking maybe I should recycle this thread for all my dumb questions instead of making a new one for every question I have, then whoever wants to answer can, whoever doesn't want to won't. I promise I'll search for myself before posting too.

 

But anyways, here's another question: I am looking for what's referred to as the "4WD vacuum hose" for selective 4WD, which is what I have. Could this be the vacuum line near the passenger side (LHD) shock tower that milesfox refers to as 'the vacuum line that controls the heater controls and the 4WD solenoid on pushbutton 4WD cars'? There are no illustrations of it in the manual.

 

Or, maybe this could be the vacuum switch hose that miles was talking about..?

 

I just got a hoist today, and I really want to pull this off, but I'm not a mechanic.. I'll need help. Please and thank you!

The vacuum supply for the 4WD shift solenoids does come from the same line that supplies the heater controls.

 

There should be a "Tee" fitting in the vac hose coming from the manifold, and it's close to the White canister mounted on the PS strut tower.

Hose comes off "Tee" goes to a checkvalve then to a hard plastic line running under the leading edge of the hood opening. Then more hose to the solenoids mounted on the DS strut tower.

 

Recently pulled all of that stuff from a '92 to install in my '88 for the center diff lock on the FT4WD trans.

Oh yes, thank you, I see all that. But is that the only vacuum supply for the 4WD? and where is this "vacuum switch hose"?