mikaleda Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) this engine has the weber carb update. when i started the engine it started smoking really bad and i found this melting. what i want to know is what the heck is this and why when i traced it it was connected to the exaust? it looks factory but because of the weber upgrade i don't have reference. i have another car i can get parts off of to fix same engine just with stock carb. this part was on the back part of the drivers side of the engine it looks like there is a similar one on the other side of the engine to. oh ya also they have put lawn mower muffler stuffed with something for air cleaners i think that may have been part of the problem http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/v...icture0002.jpg Edited June 5, 2012 by mikaleda pic fix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man on the moon Posted June 4, 2012 Share Posted June 4, 2012 Were you meaning to include a picture with that? Your post is not descriptive enough to give me any idea what your question is referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 4, 2012 Author Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) yes i am just wondering what that is in the pic. i tried to describe where i found it, does that help? if not i will try to describe it better later. this is kind of secondary because at the moment i am replacing the front oil seal so i can't run it because it sprays oil every where and as far as i can see it has no use with the weber carb. also i will try to get a better pic of it all i had was my phone (i am working on it for a neighbor), i will try to get back over where it is at and get a better pic. with my camera. i will also add perspective Edited June 4, 2012 by mikaleda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgpz Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 There is no picture in your initial post fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 oh that explains alot. i probably didn't do it right i really don't know what i'm doing i'm new to this. i'll look up how to insert pics and re post sorry about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 can you see it now? if not here is a direct link http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv218/mikaleda/picture0002.jpg that's the best i can do for right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man on the moon Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Yes, the picture is there now! You mention it is on the backside of the motor, but there are pulleys in the picture that should be on the front end, near the bumper. Was there a pipe resting across and melting the plastic? Or did it just melt on its own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 That's the silencer for the Air Suction Valve, (ASV). They'll start melting when the reeds in the ASV's break, allowing exhaust to pass thru them, melting the silencers. With the Weber swap, all of that can be removed. Follow the hoses from the Silencers, you'll find the ASV's. Then there's metal piping that goes down to the exhaust. If you can get the nuts loose that holds the metal tubing to spacer, remove the tubing. Then cut it just past the nut, flatten it, then weld the end, re-install nut. Then you can remove all of the associated other parts. Link to pic of welded tubing, http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319353_284760298207865_100000216909175 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 (edited) Yes, the picture is there now! You mention it is on the backside of the motor, but there are pulleys in the picture that should be on the front end, near the bumper. Was there a pipe resting across and melting the plastic? Or did it just melt on its own? i moved it to get a better pic. so yes it did melt on its own Edited June 5, 2012 by mikaleda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 That's the silencer for the Air Suction Valve, (ASV). They'll start melting when the reeds in the ASV's break, allowing exhaust to pass thru them, melting the silencers. With the Weber swap, all of that can be removed. Follow the hoses from the Silencers, you'll find the ASV's. Then there's metal piping that goes down to the exhaust. If you can get the nuts loose that holds the metal tubing to spacer, remove the tubing. Then cut it just past the nut, flatten it, then weld the end, re-install nut. Then you can remove all of the associated other parts. Link to pic of welded tubing, http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319353_284760298207865_100000216909175 cool i thought that so, i did see that metal pipe you are talking about. i will do like you said and weld it shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivans imports Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 its a exhaust recycle valve is not used with your carb setup plug it off and deleate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 i will thanks i kind of figured as much i just wanted to make sure. what kind of emissions components can be removed when you have a Weber? if i can clean this engine up a bit i would like to, its a mess under the hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloyale Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 cool i thought that so, i did see that metal pipe you are talking about.i will do like you said and weld it shut. You can also simply unscrew the large fitting, and stick a US Quarter in there. Makes a perfect block off plate. The high nickle conttent means it'll never corrode open. $.50 to do both sides.......cheap fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 You can also simply unscrew the large fitting, and stick a US Quarter in there. Makes a perfect block off plate. The high nickle conttent means it'll never corrode open. $.50 to do both sides.......cheap fix. nice i like that idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikaleda Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share Posted June 5, 2012 i haven't got around to plugging this yet but i found out why it failed. the reason it failed is because this car was sitting for about three years and something was nesting in the muffler. when i fixed the oil seal and fired it up i revved up the engine and it blew out a bunch of insulation now it works fine! when i replace the ball joints i will plug these off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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