4Flats Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) I picked up a 2005 Forester with 250K on the clock and I'm doing some digging around and found this leak. It runs great and I am in the process of going through the car. At first glance I assumed the worst but not I think it might just be a botched cam seal. It looks like some one may have installed a generic timing belt kit about 9 moths ago (Sticker on air box) and the seal either got missed or installed improperly. I'm new to these engines so any input is welcome. In the attached photos you can see the head and where I sprayed some de-greaser. Thoughts? Edited December 31, 2019 by 4Flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Nope. That's a head gasket leak. They all do that. Welcome to the single cam EJ25. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Dang, thought I got lucky. Looks like it has been running this way for a while. Learning every time I dig into this thing. Edited December 31, 2019 by 4Flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, 4Flats said: How is oil getting out without cross contaminant? In this picture of the head gasket, the two wide openings at the bottom are for oil drain back from the head to the crankcase. The oval holes are for coolant. It is possible for just oil to leak out along the bottom edge if the gasket no longer has a good seal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Thanks for the info. This is a different animal than what I usually tinker with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Is there a good FAQ link for tips and tricks on the head gasket job? I've seen a few videos but I am unclear on the correct upgraded gasket set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Start here https://jdmfsm.info/Auto/Japan/Subaru/ and get the Factory Service Manual. It has a lot of info that you will need. Also, if you go back to previous pages in this forum you will find lots of discussions about head gaskets, timing kits and everything else, not that long ago. Try the Search at the upper right. That is how I started years ago. Google led me to this forum. I joined and donated so I can try to give back some help if I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Thanks for the info! I'm glad I found this site. Several other Subaru forums out there are out there with little or no info. I want to solve this transmission issue, then I'll dive into the head gaskets. Edited December 31, 2019 by 4Flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 GD has the multi layer steel head gasket part numbers etched in his brain. These will be the items you want to use for the replacement headgaskets. I’m in the middle of the same thing now. Picked up a $300 SG Foz with 370,000km on the clock, engine leaking oil like a sieve and a rear strut that wasn’t happy at all. Should be a good car once the work is done. It’ll be the same with yours. I also opted to swap valve stem seals and lap the valves. I’m hesitant to swap rings on an engine that isn’t mine since it would be the first time I’ve done it and I’m not completely up on that process of ring gaps etc. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 We have a page on our website dealing with the headgasket replacement. I have the part numbers listed there: http://superiorsoobie.com/head-gasket-replacement/ GD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Side question - why does your NA EJ25 have an oil cooler? I thought these were turbo and H6 models only? And thanks for the link GD. I found the darker writing a little difficult to read but it reads well! I too made the mistake of using the VIN listed HGs on my sister’s Gen3 and it ended exactly as you say I does. That engine copped a 100,000km head gasket swap to the 642 units, it also had all the usual maintenance items done too. You don’t mention replacing rings while the HGs are being done, not always done? Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, el_freddo said: Side question - why does your NA EJ25 have an oil cooler? I thought these were turbo and H6 models only? And thanks for the link GD. I found the darker writing a little difficult to read but it reads well! I too made the mistake of using the VIN listed HGs on my sister’s Gen3 and it ended exactly as you say I does. That engine copped a 100,000km head gasket swap to the 642 units, it also had all the usual maintenance items done too. You don’t mention replacing rings while the HGs are being done, not always done? Cheers Bennie Que? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) On 12/31/2019 at 4:03 PM, 4Flats said: That above your oil filter with the pipe coming from it is an oil cooler. The pipes have coolant in them. I’ve only ever seen them on H4 turbos or the H6 NA. I’ve not seen them on H4 NAs before - unless this is a turbo equipped vehicle. Cheers Bennie Edited January 2, 2020 by el_freddo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Flats Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share Posted January 2, 2020 (edited) No turbo 2.5L, but something is goofy with the set up. This was an auction impulse buy so who knows what is going on. Edited January 2, 2020 by 4Flats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Oil coolers are normal on all the early Forester auto's. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 22 hours ago, el_freddo said: You don’t mention replacing rings while the HGs are being done, not always done? Bennie We can. But most of those are getting too old and people don't want to spend the money. A new OEM PCV valve usually does enough for oil consumption that it's manageable. New rings are the best for ultimate longevity though. GD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.