njchen24 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Greetings: After shopping online for several days at Discounttiredirect, Tirerack and Tiresaving, I am still hesitating between these 3 brandnames. Beside Bridgestone, I never heard of the other two. Surpprisingly, none of these web-sites suggest Michelin. Are Michelin really that bad? Kumho ECSTA ASX ~$435 Avon Tech M550 A/S ~$502 Bridgestone Potenza G009 ~$569 All price reflects S/H & Road Hazard My criteria are Quiet/smooth ride, Good or Excellent traction on snow and wet road and if possible speed on dry pavement. Any additinal comment and suggestion is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie94 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 kumho's a good name,just not sure as to how they are in the snow and what not. myself,i'd go with the cheapest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Greetings: After shopping online for several days at Discounttiredirect, Tirerack and Tiresaving, I am still hesitating between these 3 brandnames. Beside Bridgestone, I never heard of the other two. Surpprisingly, none of these web-sites suggest Michelin. Are Michelin really that bad? Kumho ECSTA ASX ~$435 Avon Tech M550 A/S ~$502 Bridgestone Potenza G009 ~$569 All price reflects S/H & Road Hazard My criteria are Quiet/smooth ride, Good or Excellent traction on snow and wet road and if possible speed on dry pavement. Any additinal comment and suggestion is greatly appreciated. First off where are you located? First off Michelin WEAR like iron and hold up to abuse!! BUT the Radial X's I had a on a '98 Legacy L wagon had NO lateral snow grip!! I have a set of Kumho's on my '95 SAAB 9000 Aero 5-speed, 300 hp!! (205/55 R16) and they are GREAT in the dry for $55 tires! Have not had them in the snow yet. Rain they are OK, not fantastic. Just put a set of BFGoodrich Traction T/A's for my Mom's '03 GT sedan 205/55R16. Tirerack.com and EVERYONE HERE rates them good at everything but many have reported loss of 1-3 MPG!! Only $400 OUT THE DOOR!!! the Car handles MUCH better on the BFG's than the stock Potenza RE92's!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strakes Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 I'm running P215/45WR17 Kuhmo ASX All-seasons on my GT. Like them a lot. Good traction dry and excellent traction in the wet. Haven't had them in the snow yet...but it doesn't snow that much here so that isn't much of an issue for me. What tire rated highest in the snow traction on your list? Maybe that's the one for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subie Gal Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 None of the above. I'd recommend Dunlop SP5000's or Pirelli P-zero Nero M&S both are EXCELLENT in the rain My Dunlops were great in 4-6" of fresh snow Long lasting as long as you keep the pressures up and rotate often I'm currently running the Pirelli's and cant say enough good things about them Yet to have them in the snow, but they kick arse in the rain. Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwatt Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Greetings: After shopping online for several days at Discounttiredirect, Tirerack and Tiresaving, I am still hesitating between these 3 brandnames. Beside Bridgestone, I never heard of the other two. Surpprisingly, none of these web-sites suggest Michelin. Are Michelin really that bad? Kumho ECSTA ASX ~$435 Avon Tech M550 A/S ~$502 Bridgestone Potenza G009 ~$569 All price reflects S/H & Road Hazard My criteria are Quiet/smooth ride, Good or Excellent traction on snow and wet road and if possible speed on dry pavement. Any additinal comment and suggestion is greatly appreciated. I put a set of Michelin Pilots on my '99 Legacy GT a few months ago. My most important consideration was also a quiet ride. I am pleased with the smoothness of these tires, especially because the lousy Goodyears that I took off sounded like old-fashioned snow tires (previous owner didn't rotate tires often enough). The traction of the Pilots in heavy rain is good but they haven't been on the car long enough to try them in snow (we don't get that much snow here anyway). For whatever reason, Subaru specifies an "H" rated tire ("H" rating is for speed up to 130 mph) on the '99 Legacy GT, but that car couldn't do 130 mph over a high cliff.......although I've had mine up to about 90 and it feels very stable with the Pilots on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benebob Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Personally, for that kinda price I'd buy myself some used rims and get some nice snows then go with a Falken (cheap but nice quality owned by Sumitomo now) or even a Sumi for the other 3 months. I just don't trust that I'll have a set of tires long enough to last 70k w/o an issue with one of them making it necessary to replace all 4. If you must spend all your money then I'm with Jamie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfg9k Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Greetings: After shopping online for several days at Discounttiredirect, Tirerack and Tiresaving, I am still hesitating between these 3 brandnames. Beside Bridgestone, I never heard of the other two. Surpprisingly, none of these web-sites suggest Michelin. Are Michelin really that bad? Kumho ECSTA ASX ~$435 Avon Tech M550 A/S ~$502 Bridgestone Potenza G009 ~$569 I have the Avon summer performance tires, the M500's, that I use on my Saab. They are terrific tires, with tons of grip in the wet and dry. The word over on Saabnet.com is that the M550's are also very good all-seasons. Edit: comment on the Avons from saabnet (http://saabnet.com/tsn/bb/9-5/index.html?bID=121243) - I just replaced my Aero's Michelin Pilots with a set of Avon all season tires and I must say they are unreal. Less noise and a better ride. I have about 500 miles on them and the ride and wet traction is great. I am amazed, even after all the other reviews, that these are tires are as good as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchen24 Posted November 12, 2005 Author Share Posted November 12, 2005 Thank you all for your advice and suggestion. For members who mount the ASX, does it have a quieter ride that the stock RE92? I am located in Northern NJ which has many snow storm in the last two years. Regardless of the thread wear, I change my tire every two years or as soon as the car start to slip or the tail start to slide on a couple inches of fresh snow. So I think I am going to get the ASX for this time being. By the way, I live in an appartment; so having another set of 4 rim and tires is not a suitable option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strakes Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 The ASX's noise is a little bit quieter on asphalt, but a little bit louder on concrete than the RE92's...but not annoying or bothersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickb21 Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I'm in NW NJ, looking to replace my RE92's soon (OBW has 60k on them and i don't think they'll do well in the snow this winter). What kinda price range are you looking for? Two of the guys I work with have A4's one with Pirelli PZero Nero and the other with Continenal ContiExtremeContac, they're very happy with them in the snow and they perform well in the other conditions. Those are a bit high in my price range so I've been looking at the Potenza g009's ($98), Traction T/A's ($100), and Yokohama Avid V4's ($107). Non-chain local tire shop price includes mounting/balancing/disposal. As others have mentioned the Traction T/A's are a solid tire, great dry/wet performance and good snow grip (have them on my sisters legacy). I'm going to try something new though, I've read lots of good things about the Yoko's but my wallet might make the decision with the ~40$ difference with the g009's. I'll stop blabbing now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattocs Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I think I might try out the Goodyear Assurance TrippedTred tires when I get new tires...the reviews on them make them seem like they will be really nice in snow and rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njchen24 Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 Many thanks, Strakes, for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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