ericem Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Ok, got the parts spent $345CDN bought belts, pulley, and the piece it grabs onto behind it, i was told to torque it downt to 150ft-lbs!!!!!! THis has happened more than once, and my dad seems pissed after spending so much money on this car, i mean we must have spent 15,000 between repairs, and wear and tear, and oil changes, but all this money was spent after it was more than 12 years old. Oh well, i will never get back that money. But im hoping that i get this car blessed and nothing goes wrong. Im sick off shady mechanics, they dont know what they are doing. YOu might think it saves u money, but it deosnt, they cost u money in the long run. Subaru Missasauga is the only people who touch my subaru till i die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Ok ,new update, i pulled out the old key from the crankcase, but dam, i dropped the other one in the timing cover:mad::mad::mad:. SO now i gota remove the timing cover. Oh well, but it seems like a simple job, and i bought a torque wrench set with impact pieces(the black hard steel ones) and i will torque the bolts down to 150ft-lb. Am ill dumb some blue locktite on the bolt, that odd to hold it eh? And i bought this thing that will hold the pulley instead off jaming the flywheel($20). So tommorow hopefully it wont rain so i get get a better look at things. In total i have spent about $500CDN between tools($150) and the rest in parts (key, pulley, belts, advice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjou812 Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 please post a pic of the "thing that holds the pulley" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I replaced my harmonic balancer, the 2.2 is 80 lbs. torque. I did not use thread lock. I used a thin coating of engine oil on the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Ok ,new update, i pulled out the old key from the crankcase, but dam, i dropped the other one in the timing cover:mad::mad::mad:. SO now i gota remove the timing cover. Oh well, but it seems like a simple job, and i bought a torque wrench set with impact pieces(the black hard steel ones) and i will torque the bolts down to 150ft-lb. Am ill dumb some blue locktite on the bolt, that odd to hold it eh? And i bought this thing that will hold the pulley instead off jaming the flywheel($20). So tommorow hopefully it wont rain so i get get a better look at things. In total i have spent about $500CDN between tools($150) and the rest in parts (key, pulley, belts, advice). 150 is too high, you can strip the threads in the crank, then you will be really in trouble. Go with the numbers we said here. With the Loctite (which i dont beleive in personally there) and the proper torque, you wont have a problem. Remeber that this may have to be removed again in the future, and you donw want to stretsh any threads. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 nipper is correct, you should use a torque wrench, but i never do. i do guarantee i'm getting well past the recommended value. Isn't a calibrated arm great? i have one of those too (its called many years of pulling a wrench) nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 please post a pic of the "thing that holds the pulley" This thing it has a handle and a rubber belt rated a 1300lb. and it put it around the pulley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 This thing it has a handle and a rubber belt rated a 1300lb. and it put it around the pulley. Ah yes the ol' pully holder thingy , otherwise known as a strap wrench. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Ah yes the ol' pully holder thingy , otherwise known as a strap wrench. nipper So, which this i dont need to jam the flywheel correct? And about this ft-lb for the bolt, im totally lost. I mean the dealer saus 150, u say 70-80 my dad thinks 150, someone says 100, somone says its to much aw!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 So, which this i dont need to jam the flywheel correct? And about this ft-lb for the bolt, im totally lost. I mean the dealer saus 150, u say 70-80 my dad thinks 150, someone says 100, somone says its to much aw!!! Haynes Manual (which information comes from the factory service manual) Crankshaft Pully Bolt 2.2L 70-80 Ft Lbs 2.5L 90-100 Ft Lbs With the loctite you will be fine. mipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Haynes Manual (which information comes from the factory service manual) Crankshaft Pully Bolt 2.2L 70-80 Ft Lbs 2.5L 90-100 Ft Lbs With the loctite you will be fine. mipper 99 legacy FSM says 90-100lbs for 2.2 Don't have one for other years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 99 legacy FSM says 90-100lbs for 2.2 Don't have one for other years. lets call it 100 ft/lbs across the board. i dont want to confuse him any more :cool: nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 lets call it 100 ft/lbs across the board. i dont want to confuse him any more :cool: nipper lol, well my dad said it was 140ft-lb, told by subaru. So i dont know trust the manual ,or professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 lol, well my dad said it was 140ft-lb, told by subaru. So i dont know trust the manual ,or professional. manual when it comes to torque specs. 140 is 40-50% over spec, and thats huge. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 LOOK, its 80 for the 2.2. Thats what I used, NO PROBLEMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 manual when it comes to torque specs. 140 is 40-50% over spec, and thats huge. nipper Make that a 100% http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt8.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Make that a 100% http://www.main.experiencetherave.com:8080/subaru_manual_scans/FSM_Scans/Timing_belt8.jpg And here i was trying to play peace maker ... but your going to make him convert n/m to ft lbs, you bad.... nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmanaenk Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 ... but your going to make him convert n/m to ft lbs, you bad.... nipper Nah, ft-lbs are there inside the brackets.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcspeer Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Please remember that over torque on a bolt can stretch the threads and also cause it to be weaker. I also beleive the manuals are correct but I torque to a 100 ft. lbs because so many people her disagree with the lower torque figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Nah, ft-lbs are there inside the brackets.... nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 I should probably check mine some time. It has been a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 IM back guys, and i did it 140ft-lbs with blue locktight, changed the key,and the pulley and belts, runs perfect. NOW my alternator died :horse::horse::horse:. So dum o well, new alertornator on the way. What do u guys suggest i do, rebuild it? New oem one? another good name aftermarket you can suggest? and this alternator was replaced once about 6 years ago. So ya. but i didnt even add another 100,000km since the last time it was changed why did it die so early? if i accidentally sprayed something on it or water got on it, would it die? And just wondering, a torque wrench is suppost to release once it reaches 140ft-lbs correct? like it just lets go? because i dont want to think the screw is stripped:o. Ok well i drove it with a dead battery and everything is great, dum alternator though. Oh well. After the alternator is fixed i better not spent another dime!!!!! or i will totally dump this car!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msmithmmx Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 You put the bolt on to tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 You put the bolt on to tight. HAHAHAHAHA now was it left hand rule and right hand threads or the other way around Did you overtighten the drive belts? Just go anyplace reputable for a rebuild. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericem Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 HAHAHAHAHA now was it left hand rule and right hand threads or the other way around Did you overtighten the drive belts? Just go anyplace reputable for a rebuild. nipper Nope not to tight not to loose, i can still push the belt a tiny bit. So is that reputible? or does it need to be more tight maybe? is it slipping possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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