Is there anyone here who is going off road whitout liftkit and just bigger rims and tires like 14-15 pugs???

Here's Mosiah's Soob with 26" tires on 15" Toyota rims. No lift, front fenders removed, rear fenders cut. Actually it performed very well, but as you can see he had a little trouble clearing some of the hills.

 

 

Rollie

my buddy in his hatch. just cranked up the suspension, hacked the crap out of the rear fenders, removed the fronts, and slapped on some 29" super swampers.

 

 

he's lifted it since then....but it still performed very well!

i have been on cranked suspension and rear Honda springs and drilled out rims on 26 in tires for a while now and i can keep up with the best of them. some trimming was required zzz mann i have been waiting to use that:grin:

Cool ive been thinking of cranking my frontsusp but some sub owner here thinks its better with lift blocks, and im kind of lazy at the moment have many other things to fix on my sub.

Cool ive been thinking of cranking my frontsusp but some sub owner here thinks its better with lift blocks, and im kind of lazy at the moment have many other things to fix on my sub.

I do believe you completely screw up the front camber when you do the cranking as supposed to the lift blocks. How long do you like your tires to last?

I do believe you completely screw up the front camber when you do the cranking as supposed to the lift blocks. How long do you like your tires to last?

 

Ok good point ill maybe try and see for myself how the front camber goes before i put homemade liftkit in. Has anybody been putting in liftblocks just in the front???? im after a little lift just in the front.

Ok with the lift blocks, what you are doing is dropping down the X members and the struts at a (most of the time) equal level. If you just jack your suspention up(about +1.5"max) it will screw with your camber and you will go threw axles faster. The easiest thing to do, is just buy a 3, or 4" lift kit. They are relativly cheap.. They are pretty much a body lift though, the main thing they do is provide more fender clearance so you dont have to chop so much, what helps ya is the tires. If you really dont want to lift it.. Just run some 14" pugs, and some 25 or so inch tires. That will help out quite a bit, and with just 25's, you wouldnt need to trim/pound very much at all.

 

Also check out the Offroad Sticky in the offroad tech forum. It explains just about everything you could ever need to know, hope this helps..

i have been on cranked suspen for over a year now and any camber was hardly noticeable. plus tire ware seemed to be even. lets face it, it will cost you practically nothing to do it and if you don't like it you can put it back in no time. i have to say though a lift sure is nice:headbang:

i have been on cranked suspen for over a year now and any camber was hardly noticeable. plus tire ware seemed to be even. lets face it, it will cost you practically nothing to do it and if you don't like it you can put it back in no time. i have to say though a lift sure is nice:headbang:

 

Good point there going for selftest, ive been working on my front brakes today and it went good next thing now is my tubebumper then its cranking time.

the problem with cranking up the suspension. is you loose travel. ALOT of travel. especially if you go 1.5" or more. if you're just mudding, and you don't really need any suspension flex, go for it. but if you're on trails that require flex, a lift would be much better (and you'll get better approach and departure angles too!)

Another thing is that maybe i missed, what model and year of soob do you have? some roo's arnt even going to have adjustable suspention, so check that out while your at it..

Have the adjustable front struts on my subba, but i have alot of other things to do on it first like cutting a lot of metal around original tow points in front.

Im going to cut it like Scott in Bellingham´s white one in the front. Like the style of his cars. Then maybe ill lift it.

Ive been real lazy and my lift kit is not fabricated yet. The only thing ive done so far is some cutting in the front under the plastic bumper, heres a picture (bad mobile phone pic) with my car in my friends back yard. We were both surprised how the subaru could manage his back yard.

i actually did very well with my old wagon.. all i did was crank up the suspension and then put some 14"pugs and some mud tires and i was fine..... oh and i also had to trim the fenders some after all was said and done... but it was cheap, and it worked for what i needed it to do......

i wheel in some pretty amazing places with my brat. all stock. i did tune the crap outta the carb tho. it acts like it has a turbo:grin: i will be lifting it 3 inches when i buy a dependable or should i say street leagle subaru:headbang:

Since I dont offroad to much anymore. I always used speed as my lift kit. Then I busted my control arm and possibly bent the front left suspension, now I go through axels ans wheel bearings like cigarettes So I quit with that lol.. I would just floor it. I need a lift but Im not 4byn my hatch anymore. I need a wgon