March 2, 200719 yr I was coming home the outher day and my 96 outback with 245,000 miles died at the intersection and wouldnt start back up.I checked the fuelpump and it was working but i wasnt getting any spark.I checked the coil and the primary resistance was a little high and the secondary was within range.is there a way to check the ignitor and will a 2.2 coil and ignitor work on a 2.5 motor?
March 2, 200719 yr The following has a section on no-start diagnosis: http://endwrench.com/images/pdfs/DirectIgnition.pdf (The resistance specs given for the primary and secondary coils are in error, they're reversed.)
March 2, 200719 yr That will do it. Also dont check at the coils, check at the cam and crank sesnors themselves. Coils dont just fail, they throw misfire codes or some other weirdness. nipper
March 2, 200719 yr Your timing belt is probably busted.Perhaps. Other than not firing up, does the sound of the engine cranking seem different than usual? When was the belt last changed?
March 2, 200719 yr If it does turn out to be the timing belt, do some compression and/or cylinder leakdown tests before going further (I'm assuming you have the 2.5L) since some valves may have gotten bent.
March 2, 200719 yr If it does turn out to be the timing belt, do some compression and/or cylinder leakdown tests before going further (I'm assuming you have the 2.5L) since some valves may have gotten bent.Leakdown might be a better choice than compression with a broken t-belt.
March 2, 200719 yr Author i took off the timing cover on one side and the belt was not broke.I did the headgaskets about 5000 miles ago.the car has been leaking about a quart of oil every week and a half.
March 2, 200719 yr the belt was not broke Well that's good news. Good thing I didn't place any bets on this one.
March 2, 200719 yr Broke = jumped . Double check that the timing is correct. Did you reseal the engine when you did the HG. Did you use a new belt? nipper
March 2, 200719 yr i took off the timing cover on one side and the belt was not broke.[...]Try the diagnostic sequence in the link I gave above. If nothing's happening at the igniter input (ECU output), then do check cam and crank sensors.
March 2, 200719 yr Author Broke = jumped . Double check that the timing is correct. Did you reseal the engine when you did the HG. Did you use a new belt? nipper i will take off all the covers tommorow,i also used the old timing belt since it looked good.the oil leak is coming from one of the cam seals,i tried to fix it before but it has been leaking again.i need to get the car going before it starts raining again,ive had to ride the motorcycle till the car gets fixed.
March 2, 200719 yr Looking at a timing belt you cant tell if its good or not (well you can tell not). When was the last time it was replaced. ALso was the car leaking oil onto the belt? nipper
March 2, 200719 yr Author Looking at a timing belt you cant tell if its good or not (well you can tell not). When was the last time it was replaced. ALso was the car leaking oil onto the belt? nipper there was oil in the timing cover,im not sure when the belt was replaced last last,i bought the car at 240,000 miles and now it has 245000
March 2, 200719 yr there was oil in the timing cover,im not sure when the belt was replaced last last,i bought the car at 240,000 miles and now it has 245000 Ok so history unknown. You have a rainsuit for the bike? Just in case you need a timing belt, then your going to have to doe seals etc etc.... the 2.2 needs a timing belt every 60,000 so either it should have been done at 240, or it is a newer 106,000 mile belt (which i doubt). nipper
March 2, 200719 yr Author Ok so history unknown. You have a rainsuit for the bike? Just in case you need a timing belt, then your going to have to doe seals etc etc.... the 2.2 needs a timing belt every 60,000 so either it should have been done at 240, or it is a newer 106,000 mile belt (which i doubt). nipper my motor is a 2.5, will the 2.2 belt fit the 2.5?
March 2, 200719 yr my motor is a 2.5, will the 2.2 belt fit the 2.5? oh ok my error for some reason i thought it was a 2.2 no it wont. Its jsut there has been some discussion here that we cant see subaru using one design requirement for one belt, and another for the 2.5. Maybe at one time they did, but now we arent sure. nipper
March 2, 200719 yr i see where i got confused, its the first post. In order to just rule out a bad coil, i dont see why the chaining of the coil packs wouldnt work. If the car starts, and runs you may get lucky and it be ok to run, otherwise you know its the coil pack and get a propper 2.5 pack. Its hard to tell from the manual which on is a 2.2 or a 2.5, so it may not matter. nipper
March 2, 200719 yr Author i see where i got confused, its the first post. In order to just rule out a bad coil, i dont see why the chaining of the coil packs wouldnt work. If the car starts, and runs you may get lucky and it be ok to run, otherwise you know its the coil pack and get a propper 2.5 pack. Its hard to tell from the manual which on is a 2.2 or a 2.5, so it may not matter. nipper i am going to double check the timing belt before i get a coil.they want 45 for a used i and 110 for a new 1.there is alot of subarus in the pic and pulls but they are all 2.2 motors and smaller.the 2.5 motors are rare.
March 2, 200719 yr ignition coil subaru part # 22433aa400 ..................... fits: Impreza, 2.2L 1995 – 1998; Legacy 2.2L 1995 – 1998; Legacy 2.5L 1995 - 1998 hope this helps. i have a new one if you need it, but i here they are pretty hardy items. http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=69773 i am going to double check the timing belt before i get a coil.they want 45 for a used i and 110 for a new 1.there is alot of subarus in the pic and pulls but they are all 2.2 motors and smaller.the 2.5 motors are rare.
March 4, 200719 yr Author i took off the timing covers and it looked like the belt jumped.im going to get a new belt.what arethe chances that the valves whre bent?should i putthe belt on and see what happens?
March 4, 200719 yr How many teeth did it jump. If it only jumped a few teeth then you should be ok. Dont forget a new tensioner, seals and waterpump while your there. nipper
March 4, 200719 yr Author How many teeth did it jump. If it only jumped a few teeth then you should be ok. Dont forget a new tensioner, seals and waterpump while your there. nipper itonly jummped about 2 or3 teeth
March 5, 200719 yr Author Then you should be ok. nipper i put on the new timingbelt and it still wont start. tomorrow i will get anouther coil becuase there was no spark.could the ignitor cause it not to fire?
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