eventoday Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Hi, I just purchased a 01 Forester. It has 175000 miles and an automatic transmission. Everything on the car is great excpet I am getting a noise immediatley after the cars turns over. It starts just fine. I can't really describe the noise but it almost sounds like starter keeps trying to start for a couple of seconds right after the car starts up? I have no idea. Don't know if it a is a bad thing or not. Any Suggestions or advice? thanks Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOthis Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 im not exactly sure what years this took place on but i believe it started in like 97 or 99 and it might just be on the 2.2 L....right after startup there were some noises coming from the engine because of new internal componants that subaru considered normal with no fix available.....what kind of engine is it? does it ONLY happen right after you start the car? does it go away when the car is warmed up? Is there a certain RPM range were it occurs?...........is it a grinding? tapping? knocking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eventoday Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 Its the 2.5 sohc engine. Not a knocking, ticking, grinding sound. Sounds like the the starter is still turning???????? It only happens for a second or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVOthis Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 man you would know if the starter is still trying to engage....it is the worst sound in the world......the starter is acutally trying to keep turning the already spinning flywheel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It is possible the starter is still turnging, it may be sticking internally. You can replace the solenoid contacts, as it is only going to coast you time and a few bucks. Otherwise its very hard to diagnose it without hearing it ourselves. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Maybe the power to the starter gear that engages the flywheel toothed ring shuts off normally, but the gear, for some reason, does'nt disengage immediateley from the flywheel ring gear. An inspection of that part of the starter assembly could be your next step. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It can need a drive gear, an over running clutch (part of the drive gear) or the solenoid is hanging up. The solenoid is a heavy duty relay. Japanese cars use what is called a reduction type starter motor. The beuty of these things is that from a cost standpoint, they electric motor is one size fits all, and it isnt terribly over worked, thats why they can last a very long time. The motor turns a reduction gear (which is where the speed is custom fit for the application). The output of this gear turns a shaft, on which the starter drive is located. When you turn the key, the solenoid energizes. This also forces the drive out to mesh with the ring gear on the engine. Once the engine starts, the RPM far exceeds what the starter puts out, and will drive the gear back on the starter shaft. When you turn the key with the engine running, that horrible grinding noise are those two gears trying to mesh. When you have a weak solenoid spring, or sticking contacts, the motor can still spin, but the gear has alwready been returend home. Thats why you COULD (I dont recomend this) actually hold the key to the start a hair longer then needed and not hear grinding. The downside to this problem is that you may damage the ring gear teeth (ie the flywheel). Thats a huge thing to replace, in comparison to a starter. So you may have a sticking solenoid A bad solenoid return spring A bad Drive return spring ( if equipped) A bad drive. Bad return springs will allow the drive to rattle around and nick the ring gear. The drive gear can be replaced, and the contacts are super cheap to replace. The drive motor does go bad, but its rare in a sooby. How do you tell? Remove the strater and inspect the drive gear, and replace the contacts. It's a simple job. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aircraft engineer Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Nips said it all - remember to check the flywheel thru the access hole on top of the bell housing in the back as well for excessive tooth grinding. Just pull it out, check it and replace it if it looks bad. One key inspection will be at the brushes - if there's a lot of copper ground off, it's time to replace the starter. If you need another drive, it's probably cheaper to replace the starter Time for a trip to the local JY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Nips said it all - remember to check the flywheel thru the access hole on top of the bell housing in the back as well for excessive tooth grinding. Just pull it out, check it and replace it if it looks bad. One key inspection will be at the brushes - if there's a lot of copper ground off, it's time to replace the starter. If you need another drive, it's probably cheaper to replace the starter Time for a trip to the local JY If you do go the JY route, replace the contacts while you have it out of the car. Its just a really good idea to do it, then you should be able to pass the starter down to your grand children with no worries nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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