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#1 Sweet82

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 02:58 PM

I was driving home last night and I saw a small wagon with a Mitsubishi logo on the front hood. It appeared to be somewhat high off the ground for a small wagon. Is Mitsubishi trying to capture some of the Subaru Market with a small 4wd wagon?

What did I see? :rolleyes: Or was I hallucinating?

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#2 mattocs

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 03:16 PM

Was it an Outlander or a Lancer Sportback?

#3 nickb21

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 03:21 PM

or maybe one of those Endeavor's? not very attractive car's in my opinion...

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 01:27 AM

The Outlander is the Forester wanna-be that Mitsubishi makes. It's a little weaker and only comes with a four-speed auto. I think they're supposed to have a turbo version in a couple years, if they can stay in business that long.

#5 DerFahrer

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 01:52 AM

And that's a big if...

The most loaded Outlander with AWD actually has the worst 0-60 time of any car for sale in the country at a snail-pace 11.2 seconds :lol:

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 10:06 AM

Here in the Detroit metro area I see a lot of folks driving what appears to be (to me anyway) other manufacturers interpretations of the Subaru, only bigger and heavier. Apparently the AWD sportwagon with ground clearance is suddenly hip to everyone.

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 02:13 PM

I have a '93 Mitsubishi Expo LRV AWD... George

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 03:44 PM

Hell even the logo is simliar in the way it is styled and placed. What a copy.

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 03:47 PM

has jumped on the bandwagon all right. Almost seems a shame becuse I don't think Subaru is getting the R and D money that some of the big guys get.
Being part of GM may actually help here. I think Subaru is now lagging behind in electonic management systems and powertrain research.
Some of the newly developed cars out there may have a generation's advance. How much has the transmission system changed from 10 years ago?

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 04:01 PM

Yeah, subaru needs to make their 6 speed "tiptronic" style, with paddles on the steering column :brow:

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 04:16 PM

Here is another one that should be out soon:



http://www.autoweek....rticleId=100193

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 05:34 PM

Talking about transmission updates, what about engine updates? Are any 4 cyl with variable valve timing theses days?

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 07:48 PM

Talking about transmission updates, what about engine updates? Are any 4 cyl with variable valve timing theses days?


Subaru already has VVT in it's motors.

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 07:51 PM

In '91 there was no competition to Subaru. It was a no brainer to get a high quality AWD and ABS equiped vehicle at a reasonable price when only high end cars offered ABS and very few, AWD.
Times have changed and with the poor quality and reliability ratings from Consumer's Reports, JD Powers and the like, as well as this board's experiences, competition will no doubt get more intense.
I love my 'ru but am glad there are alternatives that may yield better reliability and value. I don't need a headgasket or other expensive repair in a new car.

Subaru needs to redesign thier line and return to the days of high quality and cuttting edge inovation.

I don't think all the blame can go to GM.

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Posted 14 August 2004 - 02:43 PM

Yeah, subaru needs to make their 6 speed "tiptronic" style, with paddles on the steering column :brow:


Blasphemy! :eek:




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