KaraK

What? get out the spray cans, and puts some flames over my shiney green grandma paint????

Gary???

Gave up on the 3.0 idea hey? Old technology(timing chain)=good technology. Can't underestimate the power of the "Grandma wagon"

Do you think it's the calipers?

A friend of mine had a hose issue on a 98 somethingJapanese (not a Subaru). He said he replaced the caliper twice, and it ended up being the hose. I also saw the hose thing on some of my initial searches for this problem. You certainly know better than I! Wheel bearing??

Back from my test drive, When I step on the brake it does kind of lock, but the car will inch up slowly, not like its locked-locked. It does feel like the brakes are on, going extra slow thru the subdivision. Also noticed, going extra slow, the rotational noise sounds like footsteps on gravel, not like the squeek I'd come to expect from warped rotor (but I'm not the brightest bulb around here by a long shot) Thoughts???? P.S. the wheel did heat up, even though I was going extra slow, if that matters.

Tom said that the bearing and whatnot seemed O.K. when we had it jacked up. I will go drive up+down the road now, to check per your instructions. One thing that may or may not be pertinant, since this has been happening, I park in the driveway (slight downhill incline(decline)) put it in park, If I move my body forward and back, (or push the car a little) It will make a groaning noise and creep forward an inch or two. It will do this three times before it stops. I will check in again after my ride.

Drove the car to school today- OMG! The wheel is REALLY HOT! I touched the rotor with my fingernail, it INSTANTLY melted!!! I could see the heat waves coming off it!!! I think? this may be more than rotor warpage?? (or could it be?) If the original problem was just corrosion where pads meet bracket/caliper/clips, and we cleaned that off- It really shouldn't be hanging up THAT much to cause this much HEAT!!! I'm I right??? Should I be looking at possible caliper, hose, ABS issues? Any/all input gladly welcomed. Thanks. P.S. One more day of school tomorow- Do I try to make it??? (about 15miles each way) P.P.S. I'd like to note that the pass.side caliper, and housing were replaced by prev. owner at 103,000mi. she currently has 118,000mi.

Sorry, I guess I haven't stated before- I plan on doing the front brakes properly later in the week. I was stranded at home (out in the sticks) and needed to get to school Mon.-Wed.(TheLoyale to the rescue!) I was planning on doing pads both sides, but only turning OR replacing pass side rotor. Do I really need to go through the time/expense of calipers?? Was trying to avoid bleeding (brakes AND my wallet) Would it be terrible to leave driver side rotor alone? I wouldn't mind turning it, but would really like to avoid the caliper thing- Am I being dumb?(Ignorant) Thoughts on the "hot wheel issue"? Just the warpage?? Would hate to spend $$ I don't really have, and then ruin the new stuff.

I'm with you there sister!

Although the car is driveable now, it does seem as though the rotor is warped.(or the same thing is happening again) I have been taking approx 15 mile trips to school, and that wheel is still getting HOT. Could this be simply the pads rubbing high spots on the rotor? Or is it getting ready to lock up again? I read somewhere about the rubber hose breaking down and not allowing fluid back to the master? If that is so- would pushing in the pistons, and cleaning up the area where pads meet caliper, allow me to drive 40-50-80 miles before reoccurance???? Your thoughts are much appreciated!!! Once again BIG Thank You to TheLoyale for his help:):)

I agree! Unbelieveable!!!! It really does take a "special" kind of person !

Thanks Tom(TheLoyale)! It wasn't that bad afer all!

My goal right now is just to get the thing on the road- I'll probly be taking it apart again next week to get the rotor turned and probly new pads (by then I'll be an expert- ) I am kinda concerned about how to remove the caliper when it is clamped so tight to the rotor that I can't turn the wheel by hand. ????? Once that issue is addressed, that bracket thing stays on- and I don't swing that up? I read that the caliper is the only thing holding the rotor on, and to put some lugs back on to hold it in place while removing caliper. I am assuming the reason for the hang up in the first place IS those slide things- I hope to clean/lube and reuse them. Sooo- they screw out?? There are no nuts/pins involved?? Posts I searched were talking about pounding/pressing/torching.

Thanks for your vote of confidence:) Looks like I will be going for it- Since its raining, I have time to do a little more research and compile more Soob specific ???'s--- only brakes I've ever done are GM.

I'm ahead of you on the PB--- I think the threads I searched were refering to the pins being next to impossible to get out. I think this may have been going on for a week or two (I smelled a burnt plastic smell) (and a slight feeling of warpage) It just got REALLY REALLY bad yesterday.

Thanks, Miles, and John-- After searching for above, I'm not sure if this is within my capabilities (I don't have a torch) I'm gonna wait till tomorow I think- Maybe threads I searched were "worst case senarios"? And hours of creative pounding/torches is not typical???:eek: Words of encouragement??? Or???

Thanks! will do, sorry I did'nt think to do that:slobber:

I "think" I have a stuck caliper due to stuck slide pins,(and probly warped rotor) just got back from Napa/ the library to get manual and sil glide lube. Please excuse my EXTREME ignorance MilesFox said to remove caliper by removing bottom bolt and sliding up. Which bolt is it?? Do I assume the slide pins are the ones with the little rubber boots on??? and the one to remove is the one closest to the ground actually going through what the book calls a "support"???? Am I supposted to be removing the support too??? The only brakes I've ever done were GM and I always had buddies supervising me. I'm alone here, 40 miles from the "buddies" Please help Thanks!!!!!

Thanks for your input! I am leaning to this, as the issue.Best method for cleaning???Should I soak them in something?? Green scrubby pad?? Would this make the wheel hot???? EXTREME pounding steering shake? Lugnuts were NOT loose, In fact, I had a hard time cracking some of them loose. This is WAY worse than any imbalance I've felt before! Tire wear is minimal, nothing like my old Safari Van that DID have a bad ball joint, That tire was smooth on outside and meaty on inside. Possible--- But this wouldn't make wheel hot would it?? This is possible-How will I know if the cause is wheel bearing or just stuck slide pins? I jacked up the car and I can't move the wheel by hand. Thank You I will try to do this

After searching many posts, I think I have my problem mostly diagnosed, but I'm looking for any input ya'll are willing to share. Car is 01 Outback H6 Automatic w/118,000miles. I "think" I have a seized caliper/warped rotor, on front pass. side. Shake is terrible! Also hear noise like warped rotor, BUT oddly, I do not feel that in pedal as much as I would have thought, and the car was not pulling right excessively either. That wheel was quite a bit hotter than the others. I jacked up the car, took the wheel off, and there does seem to be pad material on that rotor. Also, I was unable to turn the rotor by hand. I have more detailed questions to ask RE: fixing brakes--- But I will wait till you experts weigh in on, if this is really my problem, or could it be something else such as wheel bearing or CV or what???? According to reciepts from previous owner, the following was done at 103,000miles Front rotors, pads, 2-CV axels, Pass.side caliper, Pass.side caliper housing. (All Napa parts) Any/all input would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks!

To anyone who may be wondering about this Yellow Gremlin that recently appeared beside my name in the posts: My Friend guessed my password, and put HIS car on there. Since his car is pretty cool, and I don't know how to change it, I guess I will remain the Yellow Gremlin, until I become the Super Bee???? One of these days, we'll see one of MY rides... -K

O.K. I've come to the conclusion I need someone smarter than me to listen to these issues, I will post again after I've found such a person Thanks for all of your input thus far.

I agree 100%! However, in this person's first post, they offered to "have babies" for anyone who will help them, perhaps this "he" is not a "he" at all, and we should accept everyone, black/white/green/purple/male/female as we are, people who live/love Subaru... As a side note, I'm confused- to me, Michigan City, IN. would have meant Indiana, not Michigan, Mass. OR CT??? What up???