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Good Deal!! I'm sooo glad you fixed it! As a precation I would pop the crank pulley off and replace the key in the key way at the nose of the crankshaft, A loose pulley can damage the key and it may break later on. I'm glad it wasn't terminal. Yeah, Texas is a long way from NC..Man that would have been a long drive! 85Sub4WD...I am in Midland, NC about 25 mi east of Charlotte. If you know of any local yards around your neck of the woods that have Justys please PM me. I am looking for a complete FI Justy since I will need the wireing harness as well to convert my 88. My 88 and 90 are in the photo gallery under my user name if you want to check out my projects. Thanks, Jim

AHHRRRRR... Don't junk it!!! If you are close to NC I'll come get it!!! Last summer I rebuilt a 93 FI engine for my 90 4WD ECVT Justy 5 door. Since then I have been bleeding for another complete EFI car to use as a donor to convert my 88 carbed 4WD Justy to FI and equal length axleshafts. Please PM me...I'll take the car if you are close!!

The Justys oil pump is located at the front of the engine. You will need to remove the drive belt or belts if you have AC, then the crank pully. You can then get to the triangular aluminum oil pump cover held on with 3 small bolts. Remove the cover (It has an o-ring seal) and the pump is there. It is a replacable geroter style pump. That is still available from Subaru for about $25.00. Be sure to check the pump shaft on the inner gear for heavy scoring and the outer portion of the pumping chamber located as part of the front cover....All this can be done with the engine in the car. If it were mine I would install a new oil pump. Pull the oil pan and replace the main and rod bearings. Justys are known for oil pump and rod bearing issues. I have saved a few this way. General rule: If it stops knocking as rpm increases it usually means the bearings have excessive clearence (.003 thousanths or more) or a weak pump. A weak pump has the ability to overcome these "Leaks" as rpm increases. I think a new pump and bearings will fix your Justy provided the crank journals are not "toasted"...You will need to inspect them. Your 93 has the FI engine...These are hard to come by. If it spins a bearing and busts a connecting rod it will knock the balance shaft right out the side of the block. I think you can fix it for about $150 in parts. BUT,....If ya don't want to fix it.. How close are you to North Carolina? I'll buy it from ya and convert my 88 4WD Justy to FI Good luck, Jim

If you are interested in making CF hoods for the 87-88 Gen 1 Subaru Justy and the 89-94 Gen 2 Justys I have hoods for molds that you can use. I live in Midland, NC 25 mi east of Charlotte. I would be interested in a CF hood for my 88 and 90 Justys if I could get them for around $250.00 a piece. Have you posted on the Justy website?? I think you will get some interest from the folks over there. Here is the website http://subarujusty.proboards20.com/ Jim

Not bad at all!! Just use a 2x4 across the strut tower to secure the engine. Use a chain or cable between the lifting hook and the 2x4 to keep the engine "UP". This makes life easy because you will have to remove the cross member and motor mount to remove trans. (Now you don't have to work around a floor jack on the oil pan) Tap out the inner CV joint pins, and remove the inboard bolts (Left & Right side) that attach the lower control arms to the frame. Then, push each wheel outward and the inboard CVs will disengage from the trans. Just swivel them out of the way. After removing clutch cable, wire connectors, and trans bolts. The trans will come right out. On a lift with air tools I had one on the ground in 15 min. On my back on a gravel driveway with my "Road Tools", a floor jack and my jack stands... 1hr 30min....Hey, I'm 42 years old..I work slow on gravel!! Really..If the car is not a "Ruster" and runs good It's worth it to do a clutch. The Gen 1 Justys are becoming real hard to find these days! Good Luck!! Jim

I have an ECU for an 89 Justy FWD with a 5 Speed transaxle. The car had 128,000 miles when I parted it and still ran after it spit # 2 connecting rod out the side of the block. If you still need it PM me and I will call you. Sorry..I do not have the harness. Jim.

If you look under www.grantproducts.com you MAY still be able to find the horn kit to install any Grant signature series steering wheel on a 87-94 Justy. I have one kit on my 88 and another one my 90. I also have one as a spare for the day when they discontinue it....I hope they have not done that yet!!!:-\ If you can't find the PN# on their site, PM me and I'll get you the number so you can start your search. Cost is about $50.00 for the kit but, you can pick up some really nice Grant wheels on ebay for 'Dirt Cheap'. I personally know of no other wheel, Subie or otherwise that will fit the Justy splines. Good Luck...Hope ya get one! Jim

OK....I have been working on two Justys (an 88 4WD and a 90 4WD 5door ECVT) I have done a few mods to them but, still have not been able to convert my 88 gen 1 justy to an FI turbo due to the lack of an FI parts car..or to be more specific.. a good FI block! I have the head,induction, and wire harness but, need a good bottom end so I can run the equal length axle shafts. Getting the right parts you need to build a Justy is 75% of the battle. I have 10 Justys (5 just for parts) and I still have to "Scrounge" for parts on occasion. Anyhow, If you want to see my Justys just look in the USMB photos section under my user name. If you need any Justy info just PM me and I'll help all I can. Hey...Anybody out there got a decent 90-94 FI Justy block they want to get rid of???? ....Yeah I know! It was worth a shot.. Jim

My GOD Meeky....Hell must have frozen over and the sick must now be healed!!!! This would be the only explanation as to why you..A person who has TRASHED the Justy constantly in many a post on this forum would have anything to do with any kind of JUSTY project!! Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled that you and your buds are gonna do a turbo Justy..I'm kinda surprised that you guys are planning to use an ECVT equipped car. As I read in one of your posts, you stated that the ECVT was a POS and that you were glad they never put that "LUMP" in a Hatch!...By the way, Is your lifted hatch still "scoolin" SRT-4 Neons for the first 200 feet?? Oh, and is it still driving over Justys??? That 90 better watch it's back!! OK..Meeky..Now that I've given you some well deserved "Ribbing" (Hope you have a sense of humor) I wish you and your friends the best of luck on the project. I just finished a 90 Justy 5 door 4WD with an ECVT trans. (Rebuilt engine) and it runs and drives great!! It's a fun car and someday, it too may get a turbo....It depends how your project turns out. Good Luck!

My wife laughed and said you were more on target with your first word selection! Psychotic fits to a tee!!! Your "Bus Guru" has given you the best advice you could ever get! The rest is up to you! I have (at last count) 9 Justys I think! (4 Gen 1s and 5 Gen 2s) All but 2 are carbureted, Of the 2 EFIs I have one I'm driving and the other has no engine (I rebuilt it to replace the blown up one in my driver). I will check my Subaru Justy parts book and see if the Carb and EFI crankshaft are the same. If so, I'll see if I can round one up for you but,... Shipping will kill you!! Good Luck with the Justy...The "Redheaded Stepchild" of the Subaru clan! I'll E you some pics of my Justys when I get a couple of minutes. Thanks, Jim

Man..What a rotten situation!!! My heart goes out to you!! Reading your thread makes me realize just how lucky I am that I can do all my own work. It also reminds me of the main reasons why I started working on my own/family cars at the age of 17. (I'm 42 now) My dad back then, had a really bad experience similar to yours with a dealership on Long Island where I grew up (Hey NIPPER!) I ended up fixing that car myself after the dealership "bailed out" on the warranty. I got so pissed, it made me made a life changing decision....I went out and got a factory service manual, A good set of Craftsman tools and with a little help from some "Friends in the Know" we fixed it right!! The process gave me a sense of accomplishment that led to a life long hobby/profession of working on automobiles. Today, I am an automotive instrustor at a local Community College. I teach in several areas but, my specialty is engine rebuilding/repair. As I read your story, It reminded me of an old but, true saying.. "Success has a million fathers but, failure is an orphan!" If or when a rebuilt engine fails, who is to blame? Dealership, Machine Shop, Parts Supplier, Dealer Tech, Customer, God Maybe??? In my experience, all of the former blame the latter as a last resort! I hope you can get this situation resolved with the Dealer but, In the end you may have to go the route that I did...Rebuild it yourself. I just rebuilt one for my 90 Justy 4WD with ECVT this past summer. It was really not too bad... Heck, Take pictures and do a book..."How to keep your Justy Alive" Turn the negative experience into a positive...It worked for me!! P.S If you do the book thing I would love to contribute!! Jim

I too have a 88 4WD Justy. The LSD rear diff was not available in any of the US market Justys from 87-94. It is possible that JDM Justys may have had the LSD but, I do not know for sure. Good luck with your car!!!

Paul, My book says that the intake and plenum are the same from 90-94 but, the fuel injectors and wiring changed for the 93-94 models. The main difference I saw from my 90 model to my 93 parts car was the connectors..The shape was different but, the wire routing was the same. All the people I have talked to say... You gotta use the EFI head if you convert a carb to EFI. I can't say for sure that you must but, it sure sounds that way. You can however, use a carbed block from 87-92 but, the 87-89 blocks don't have the mounting boss used to mount the intermediate shaft bracket for the equal length axle shafts. These are used on 90-92 GL Justys and all 93-94 Justys. Sorry I teased you... If it's any consolation the ultimate tease is waiting a year and a half for the insurance salvage lot to auction off their 93 Justy yard car so I could get an engine and other EFI stuff...Seeing it sitting there every week made it even worse!! Really, the best bet is to try and find a complete EFI car and strip off all the stuff you need. Happy Hunting!! Jim

Paul, I have a spare carbed intake already removed from an 89 Justy...Just say the word and it's yours. I also have a complete EFI induction system from a 93 Justy parts car..Tank, Lines, Wiring, Intake manifold, Exhaust manifold, and Cyl head. (#1 exhaust valve took a shot from the piston due to a bottom end failure but,the head is good.) Sorry, It's not for sale.. I need it for my white 88. I'm always on the hunt for EFI Justys but, man they are hard to come by. Good luck, Jim

Paul, I got your message on my cell. I'm sorry I have not gotten back to you. I have had some health problems over the last month and had to spend a couple of days in the hospital (I thought my pump was taking a dump!) the last few weeks have been tough with tests and all but, all is well now. Doc says heart is fine..I just need to practice stress management!...Yeah, Me and a Zillion others. I wish I had better news on the carb issue..Unfortunetly, I do not have a source who rebuilds those Hatachi carbs. I have seen some rebuilt carbs on ebay and some kits there as well. If you can score a kit, I have a service manual with rebuild procedures if you want to take a shot at rebuilding it! Well, keep me posted and I too will keep my eyes open. Good luck, Jim

OH Man !!!!!!! Forgive me for the brain fart!! It has been a really long day! Forget the previous post..I misunderstood!! A factory Subaru pressure plate will have the 0 mark for you to line up but, if you have an aftermarket clutch kit like a Sachs it will not have any markings. I put a Sachs kit in my 88 Justy and I never saw any marks. I just did it like any other normal clutch job and 43,000 mi later she's still doing great! I would not sweat the issue! Good Luck! Jim

OK....Here is the deal: The "0" mark refers to the front crankshaft sprocket when doing a T-Belt.(Forget about it when doing a clutch job) The Justy flywheel will only bolt on 1 way (The holes are "not" drilled equally apart) Just set the flywheel on the crankshaft and turn the flywheel with the crankshaft stationary till the holes line up than bolt it on. Torque the bolts in 2 steps (IE. If torque is 40 FT-LB tighten all bolts @ 20 FT-LB than tighten all bolts to 40 FT-LB) and tighten in a chris-cross pattern. Also, replace the pilot bearing for the input shaft. (Use a socket that matches the OD of the new bearing and drive the new bearing into the flywheel after you remove the old one. Good Luck! Jim

Basher...Good luck with your new Justy!! I too have an 88 4WD carbed Justy with a 5speed. (I have posted pics of it in the USMB gallery) I also just got done rebuilding a 1990 5dr 4WD Justy with Fuel Injection and an ECVT trans. Having owned and worked on many Justys over the last 6 years. I can give you some facts you can take to the bank. The 1189cc (1.2) 3cyl in your Justy is a true Subie engine! The association with Suzuki started with the 1996 model year when the Justy went to a 3rd generation body style. The 96 and newer Justys "are" rebadged Suzukis. The Justy was sold in the US from 1987-1994 and I think Canada got the 1995 model but, after 95 the little car was gone from North America. Your 1189cc motor is ABSOLUTLY, POSITIVELY NON Interference. I broke my T-Belt 2 weeks after I bought my 88 Justy back in 1999 and all I did was roll the cam and crank to line up the marks, slip on a new belt and I was rollin in an hour and a half! If you are really into Justys check out http://subarujusty.proboards20.com This board is exclusive to Justys and can give you some good info if needed. Justys really are totally different from anything Subaru has built before or since. My next project is to put a Fuel Injected 1189 into my 88 Justy and like you, I'd like to turbo it.....It has been done successfully a couple times before. (Hey, Do it Sideways are you out there????) Well, Good luck with your car and keep us posted! Jim

AHHH...Matthew, I didn't give away all the Justy secrets..Just a few. Don't feel too evil about swapping the Justy box for the Mazda unit, It's is a good strong box with decent gearing. The Ford Festiva boys like to swap in the 323GTX engine and trans package for a little extra PUNCH!! Maybe, the whole setup would fit between the Justy frame rails..HMMMMM..Something to think about!! Good Luck! Jim

A Justy Club sounds cool!! At the moment I have 10 Justys in various stages and conditions (Parts cars, Fixer-uppers, 1 Daily Driver, and My Tuner project). Now about the cars: My 1st Justy (The Tuner) I purchased in June 1999. It's a 1988 Justy GL 4WD Carbed with a 5 speed trans. It had 128K mi on it when I got it and now has 173K mi. I have been modifiying this car pretty much since the day I got it (You can see pics of it in the USMB photo gallery under my user name) I drove this car daily untill I took over my wife's 96 GEO Metro 2 years ago....I know...But, the GEO had low miles and 4 doors, Besides I was able to do more to the Justy now that I wasn't driving it every day. I missed driving something different but, lucky for me last Dec I found a 1990 Justy GL 5 door with 4WD, Fuel Injection and an ECVT trans. It had a bad engine (#1 rod let go) but, this past summer I rebuilt a low mi replacement engine, put it in and it runs great! My ECVT unfortunetly has a code 35 that needs to be addressed but, once thats done....I'll be cruisin daily in a Justy again!! (At present I haven't named her..Anyone have any suggestions?? I will post pics of this car in my photo gallery when I get a chance to take some pics. Too bad you're on the Left Coast......My Justys like to hang out with their own kind. So, your 91 hates VWs.....My 88 has major issues with Ford Festivas..It started 4 years ago when an Aqua Blue, mildly lowered 90 Festiva equipped with tuner rims, a "Fart Can" and yellow racing stripes rolled up next to us at a stop light and wanted a go....We did, and Mr.Festiva lost by a half a car length. Later, one of my automotive students who knew the guy said he was "Cryin" about how he got beat by an old fart (I'm 41) in an old tricked out Justy and that I "must" be using a Sneeky Pete NOS set up. I laughed but, I think my Justy took it personal!! Anyhow, Good luck with "The Club" and keep us posted!! Jim

OK, Here is the deal. Starting in 1990 the Justy was available with 2 possible engines..A carbureted 1.2L engine in the Front Wheel Drive Justy DL (Base model) or a Fuel Injected 1.2L engine in the Front Wheel Drive and 4 Wheel Drive Justy GL (Upscale model). The DL had unequal length axle shafts and the GL had equal length. The transmission type (5 speed or ECVT) can be bolted to either engine by changing the flywheel and mounting bolts NO PROBLEM! The above info is the same for the 1991 and 92 model year. In 1993 and 94 all Justy models FWD/4WD had the Fuel Injected engine and equal length axle shafts. To answer your question..As long as both the donor and receipient vehicle share the same induction system (FI or Carb) You can swap them with no trouble. For instance....3 months ago I put an engine from a 93 Justy FWD with a 5 speed trans into a 90 Justy 4WD with an ECVT. Both vehicles had Fuel Injected engines and bolted up perfectly. I chose to use the intake,injector, and plenum assembly from the 90 because in 93 they changed the connector shape of the fuel injector harness. If you chose to use a FI engine from a 90-92 model this is not a problem. Hope this helps...If you are really into Justys you should check out the Justy proboards website. Lots of good info on there!! Also, If you need any parts PM me...I have about 10 of these cars in the 88-93 year model range. Good Luck!! Jim

I agree with thealleyboy! They charged you flat rate for 4 hrs @ $75.00 per hr from the flat rate manual. This is a standard practice with dealerships and independent shops. Here in Charlotte NC the labor rate is between $95-110 per flat rate hr so, $75.00 per hr is not too bad! As to the issue of "The Customer" supplying some of the parts and also having started some of the tear down before the vehicle comes into the shop... Understand, This is a mechanics worst nightmare!!! The customer always feels they should get a break on the parts and labor since the mechanic "doesn't have as much work to do!" The reality is the job usually takes the mechanic a bit longer because he/she has to figure out how the jigsaw puzzle goes back together! Whenever I have to work on these cars I always hope all the bolts and hardwear made it into all the coffee cans stored in the trunk, most times the odds are 50/50. Even if the mechanic had a factory service manual for this 20 year old vehicle (Doubtfull) or ALLDATA/Mitchell on Demand (Possible) reassembly can be a pain especially, if you did not see how the vehicle came apart. Remember..Mechanics are people too! Based on my knowledge of the automotive repair business....They didn't rip you off! Just my 2c

Will, I will PM you tonight with my VIN and the 4digit key code for my 88 Justy. Heck, for $25.00 you'll get the STI key blank and cut it for me...What a deal! PM me with your paypal acct. info so I can get you paid and then I'll start camping out by the mailbox. Thanks, Jim V.

Will, Don't fool with me like that!!!! I've been wanting to do an STI key for my 88 Justy 4WD since the key became available. Everyone I talked to told me it will not work! Lets face it, with the key going for $20.00 uncut I've been a bit scared to give it a try. Are you serious, or is it April 1st all over again? (You got me good man!!) Really...Can it be done?? Jim V. (Met you once at Folger last summer)

Good deal!!!! One of the reasons I became a member of USMB was due to the fact, I saw pics of your Justy (long before the turbo installation) posted when I was looking for ideas for my 88 4wd. I'm thrilled to see that a "Justy", a car that unfortunetly, many Subaru folks feel isn't worthy of the Subaru name is getting a "Total all out overhaul" I love these cars and hope you will take the time to do a build diary. As you have shown, these cars have unlimited potential and can kick some a** along with the best of them. I can't wait to see some pics! Have you posted your plan on the Subaru Justy proboards20 site? I see you are a member. They would love to know your Justy is getting the "Overhaulin" treatment. Good Luck!!!!