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Just last night I swapped the evap and return lines coming through the firewall, as well as back at the tank. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have made a difference. Upon inspection though, it seems as though the evap and return lines are approximately the same diameter. I measured both of these lines at roughly 4mm. Seems strange to me, because when I read a write up about converting the fuel system for an EJ22 swap from Phizinza, it says that the return line is 3.2mm and the vent line is 6.3mm. My Brat is an '82 DL. From my understanding, this was a bit of a strange year for the Brat (only 2nd gen body with a hardtop option, single range 4 speed, Carter-Weber carburetor instead of a Hitachi carburetor). Maybe this uniqueness has something to do with why these lines are the same diameter? Not sure, I may be missing something here. If not, it sounds like I'll have to run a new line to resolve this.
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On the front of the tank, there are two lines directly next to one another. I know that the larger of the two is the feed, and I assumed that the one directly next to it was the return. (This post shows what I am talking about: There's another line that wraps around the tank (evap I'm assuming) which leads to a canister located in the right rear fender. There's two other lines that come out of the tank right above where the fuel fill port is. These two lines also lead into that canister located in the right rear fender. I tried to switch how I hooked up the return and evap firewall lines, guessing that maybe I had swithced them accidentally and that this was causing the high fuel pressure. This just lead to increased pressure in the fuel tank and purging of fuel through the return line. Is there a write up on the forums here on how people have swapped the lines so the return line will have a larger diameter or do I need to run an entirely new return line?
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Update: Got a fuel pressure gauge on the Brat recently, and discovered the source of the rough idle: high fuel pressure. I believe that the 2.2 is supposed to run around 30ish psi. My fuel pressure gauge gave me a rating of 65 psi 😬 Now I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting such a high fuel pressure rating. I disconnected what I am 99% sure is the fuel return line coming from the firewall (next to throttle cable coming through firewall) and I got a way more normal fuel pressure of around 30ish psi. I blew into a piece of fuel hose connected to the return line to see if there was any resistance that would indicate a clog. I could easily hear bubbling in the tank when I did so. Just in case the power of my lungs wasn't enough, I blew some compressed air through the line with the same result. I hooked the line back up and got the same pressure reading of 65 psi. I am using the stock return line that came with the Brat. May be common sense, but could the change in diameter between the fuel return port on the EJ and the fuel return line on the Brat cause such a drastic increase in fuel pressure? Out of all of the write ups I researched while doing my swap I don't remember seeing anything saying that I need to run a completely new return line of larger diameter, just that I would need to upgrade all of the rubber fuel lines to be EFI grade.
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Apologies for the late reply! Got busy with work and couldn't check the forums. Anyways, the scanner wasn't throwing any codes specifically related to a bad idle. However, there were multiple EVAP codes thrown as well as two other codes: P0172 (Bank 1 Too Rich) & P0301 (Cylinder 1 Misfire). Besides the surging idle, the engine feels as though it is running pretty well. The surging idle makes itself known once it has had a few minutes to warm up. While driving, it runs pretty smooth but there's probably a 20%-25% chance that when I coast to a stop in neutral, the car will die on me. That being said, I'm assuming that the cylinder misfire is a result of the rich environment it's in (fouled plug maybe, but I haven't gotten the chance to check it). From a cold start, the EJ22 does take a few seconds to start, and it actually sounds like it's struggling a bit. Once it's warmed up and then shut off, it doesn't have a problem starting up again. That may be a contributing factor, I will look into this, thank you!
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Hey everyone, I have an EJ22 from a '98 Legacy now in an '82 Brat. I've found that once at operating temperature, the idle begins surging. It is running rich at idle and at 2k rpm. After hooking it up to a diagnostic scanner, it was discovered that the ECM is fluctuating between a closed loop and an open loop when the idle surges. When in a closed loop, the engine wants to stall. I hope I put this post in the right place rather than the Retrofitting forum. I figured that since this question pertains more to the operation of the engine rather than how to put this engine in an older Subaru, then its best place is here. Thank you!
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Hey everyone, I recently had an issue where the brake pedal in its resting state was not pushing in the switch that controls the brake lights. I got this issue fixed, but my dumb self first tried adjusting it from the bracket that sits on the threaded part of the booster push rod. I learned that by doing this, I unintentionally moved my brakes out of adjustment. Now I’m worried about my brakes dragging but its not quite roadworthy yet to find that out (finishing up engine swap). Is there certain adjustment specs for the brake booster push rod? Thank you!
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Will EJ starter motor work for a 5 Speed D/R?
SaltyMike replied to SaltyMike's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
When you say you went to the EA82, you're referring to the flywheel, correct? -
Thank you Bennie, I completely understand that it’s not necessary to remove the Brat’s wiring harness when doing this swap considering it’s mostly going to be powered by the EJ harness, but I just figured I’d clean up the engine bay a little bit and get rid of the rat’s nest of wires I pulled from it. Just want to be safe before cutting anything though. Just to confirm, that picture with the three relays and cylindrical connection point mounted on the metal bracket is all for the A/C? That’s the bulk of the wiring in the engine bay currently, and it just seems odd that there is so much wiring for just the A/C. Plus some of those relays have wires going to some important stuff, such as the headlights and the brake master cylinder. Through a quick parts lookup, I’m pretty sure the cylindrical connection all the way to the left with the hose exiting out the back is the refrigerant pressure switch, so I can rest assured that it’s for the A/C system.
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Hi everyone, Finally in the wiring stage of my EJ swap and I'm working on cleaning up the EA81's wiring harness (at least what was in the engine bay). Besides obvious things such as headlights, wiper motor, etc, what wires need to be kept? I have my EJ22 harness thinned out by SJR and ready to go in. I've removed my A/C wires as I will not be keeping it. There's a large cluster of wires and relays that were located on the passenger side by the strut tower, and when I've seen pictures of EJ22 swapped 80s Subarus, I don't see any of those wires there. Before I cut them though I just want to be sure. I'll have to post the pictures in separate posts because they can't all fit in this one post. I've also read in Numbchux's swap guide that the EA starter relay needs to be kept but I can't find any wiring harness that show it. Relays bolted to passenger side strut tower:
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This new picture I just posted shows that unused stud that I believe you are referring to. I've been told about his rubber bushing, but I don't think my transmission came with one when I mounted it. There was one that went between the two bolts holes you can see in the lower bracket, but it was a part of the 4WD selector, and since Jerry's kit allows me to use the Brat's stock selector, I just unbolted it. Additionally, the lower bracket leaves no room for the driveshaft.
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Hi Rupart, I think that this picture shows the lower mount bracket you're referring to. The parts diagram you posted labels it as 20. The bolt hole you see to the left towards the rear of the bracket is one of the two holes that mounts the 4WD high/low shifter. The two studs on top on the bracket are for the electronic mechanism that will display on your dash what mode you are in, but I don't place on wiring it. I figured that I would have to keep this bracket as it allows for the 5 speed shifter to be mounted, but keeping it there will not leave any room for the driveshaft, even when I move it as far up and out of the way as possible, therefore I removed it and it's why you can see that really shiny area of aluminum on the transmission. Do you have a picture of that rubber piece that bolts to the bracket and then to a stud on the tunnel you're referring to?
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Will EJ starter motor work for a 5 Speed D/R?
SaltyMike replied to SaltyMike's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
When I get the chance I will check the size of the holes. The spacing between both mounting holes are the same though. -
Will EJ starter motor work for a 5 Speed D/R?
SaltyMike replied to SaltyMike's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
@Steptoe's photosI have the starter from the 98' Legacy (5MT EJ22) and the starter from my '82 Brat (4MT EA81). Both starters have a total of 9 teeth and the spacing between the two bolts holes are the same. I'll have to look back and see if the actual holes themselves are the same size, I didn't notice any significant differences at the time I inspected them. The cog on the EJ's starter stick's out more than the EA's, but both mount in flush with the transmission housing. I've heard of people having to space out the starter motors when they do the 5-Speed swap, but since I can't see whats going on between the fly wheel's teeth and the starter's teeth, and both starters are sitting flush in the transmission housing, I'm not sure what the best course of action to take is. I may have to wait until first start up. -
I was first made aware of this through a friend that has done this swap on their bus. Definitely seems to be a more prevalent problem over there. When I get to this point in my swap soon I will post here what I found.
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vss dash problems for ej swap
SaltyMike replied to Zippy310's topic in Old Gen.: 80's GL/DL/XT/Loyales...
Was this problem ever solved? Would really be interested in hearing the solution if so. I'm anticipating having a similar problem with my swap. -
I now have the 5 Speed D/R transmission in place with Jerry's conversion kit on my '82 Brat. Only problem I've found is that I cannot find a place to mount the gear shifter. I've had no problem with the 4x4 linkage because its held secured between the transmission and the high/low shifter in the interior. On the stock 5-Speed, the shifter is mounted on a bracket that also mounts the 4x4 shifter, however I cannot fit that as it will interfere with the driveshaft. I've talked to Jerry himself about what he recommends, but he mentioned mounting it via studs located along the transmission tunnel that I could not find. I don't want to burden him with anymore phone calls from me. I've thought of drilling some holes into the side of the transmission tunnel to create some kind of custom bracket, but I figured that I would post a picture and ask here before I go doing any of that.
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I did a little searching around for Brumby interior shots. Correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like all of the Gen 2 brumbys and possibly Gen 3's with the EA81 had the gauge cluster without the tach, which is what my DL has. The only difference is it seems that you guys got a clock all the way to the left of the cluster, where as that area on my DL cluster is simply labeled "Subaru". They must all be the same cluster minus the clock difference, hence why they all don't have a VSS built into the speedo.
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I've been told that running a EJ22 without a VSS signal will put the vehicle into limp mode. This may possibly be an issue with just the phase 2 EJ22s, which mine is (donor car: 1998 Legacy).