Just wondering what everyone is doing or using to help this crap ethanol gas blend they're forcing on us. It's horrible in my EA81's. Even running the mid-grade 89 octane I get some pre-detonation. I don't really want to retard the timing so I guess that leaves additives.

 

What's everyone else doing? I fear our older engines might not be long for this world with the crap we have to burn.

I deleted my original response. Because this is largely about politics pandering to corn farmers (Obama always says "corn based Ethanol" rather than just Ethanol). And don't forget the other do-gooders who don't realize we loose energy and make more pollution producing and transporting Ethanol related materials than the benefits. And I invest heavily in alternative energies and products so I have a decent idea of what I'm talking about. I'm not just making offhand comments. Anyone who would like to discuss can PM me. I'm always willing to learn or find out places where I need to do more Due Diligence. This thread isn't the place.

 

But basically bend over like the lady in your icon.

 

I head the Marine Stra-Bil is better than the old red stuff.

 

I also hear Seafoam is a great fuel stabilizer and works well in Ethanol. This comment from my local small engine shop. And small engines were where some of the original Ethanol problems surfaced.

 

Remamber this crap we gotta buy draws moisture big time.

here, mid grade (89) always has ethanol 10%,

low grade 87 has no ethanol for the most part here, and 91 and premium can have it, sometimes not.

I never use the 89 ethanol, and am taking a chance on the 91. A few of my cars require premium.

 

i do see 15-20% decrease in mileage of fuel with the ethanol, so i cant wait til it done for and not pushed in my state. Right now they push it and push for 15% and push for 20% and i sold my SVX recent due to the owner manual saying specifically in quote " do not use fuel any more than 10% ethanol due to damage to engine as a result" that was in my owners manual and that car did 27.5mpg ave on non ethanol and only 20 mpg on the crap with ethanol on 2 tanks i had no choice.

Edited December 11, 201015 yr by bheinen74

I hate it. If I use non-ethanol gas, I dont get pre-det., if I do, I do. Not to mention my fuel economy goes down... I commute 100-120 miles per day (depending on if I take the baby to daycare or mommy does), I live 48 highway miles from work. Losing 2-3 mpg sucks

Pretty much every station up here in Vermont has it :-\ In all the grades. My ea81 hates it (pre detonation) and so does my wrx. I've only been getting like 24mpg with my wagon this year and a few years ago I was getting 27mpg easy. I hate it, so does my weber it's been acting up with the ethanol.

-SB

I have used 10% ethanol blend for probably 20 years, and although I might prefer not to use it I have not had any obvious issues other than slightly lower fuel mileage.

Ok, I guess I'll jump back into this conversation again. I posted this same question before, however, this time I've got a bunch of links for you. So, put on you thinking caps and read through these.

 

http://www.businessweek.com/print/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090514_058678.htm

 

http://www.fuel-testers.com/fuel_additives_gas_treatments.html

 

http://www.e85fuel.com/e85101/faqs/conversion.php

 

http://www.pure-gas.org/index.jsp

 

So far I tend to like the marine sta-ble. Thoughts? :-\

 

Ed