Red0ktober Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'm pulling my engine to replace head gaskets and re-seal. I was thinking that I would make sure the engine was good before I invested too much, but now might be the best time to swap in my 5-speed D/R Are there any caveats to running an EA82 5-speed on an EA81T? I see the starter is on the opposite side. Will that clear the turbo bits well enough? I'm new to Subaru, so any relevant info would be appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The starter is not on the other side, its the same. If you swap a EA82 5spd in, you will need to change the strut rod plates. They are part of the front trans mounting points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red0ktober Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Oh, ok. I didn't have them side-by-side, but for some reason I was thinking the starter was different. That's good news. I'm going over some write-ups again, I think I may be better doing one thing at a time. I bought this 5-speed to replace a 4-speed, not an auto, so I don't have all the bits I'd need (eg. shifters, flywheel, etc). I might just have to wait until the local yard gets another donor. How are the 3at's for drivability? I bought the car as a non-runner with I think about 130k. Planning on a fluid and filter change before I try to drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbone Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 The 3AT is notorious for have the governor getting apple-cored. Theres a write up in the USRM about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red0ktober Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) What does that mean? I've never had or worked on an auto before this car, other than doing a filter and fluid change on a friends car once. (Edit: I found the USRM page which explained somewhat) Edited June 23, 2011 by Red0ktober Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bratsrus1 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hi Paul This is Jerry, i make the 5 speed kit for the EA81 cars call me if you are interested in a kit 509-952-2855. Thanks Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red0ktober Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 Is that kit for the 3AT to 5-speed or 4-speed to 5-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 go with a 5spd. use the 5spd driveshft, and fab a carrier mount. a 4spd ea81 trans mount will bolt onto the 5spd. use the 5spd flywheel on the ea81 crank, and the ea81 bolts. Use locktite or thread sealer since the bolts go through the crank you will have to notch out the bottom corners of the ea81 bellhousing to clear the teeth on the ea82 flywheel use a m/t starter from ea81/ea82/ej18/22 Simple enough, it's the same as any ea81 swap. Your swap was actually my first clutch/swap/turbo, and it worked for me the first time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 the kit allows you to put the 5 speed in an ea81 car and keep the interior looking stock with the 4wd shifter and console so its not all frankenstined together. very worth it i used it in my old hatch. Cheers R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 There is a lot of good information in this thread so far, but not all of it is accurate. I have done this swap before and its pretty easy. First, find the 5 speed swap guide. Second, you don't need to do any grinding on the bell housing (EA81Ts got larger housings to clear torque converters), but you might want to on the rear of the transmission case, in some cases, it will tap on the transmission tunnel and become quite obnoxious. Like Turbone said, you will need parts from a 4 speed car. Heck, find that how-to and you'll be set. If you have any questions, PM me and I'll answer them as best I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red0ktober Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 So I need to chase down a 4-speed car if I don't want to gut my '81. So to convert from the 3AT, I'll need the pedal box and clutch cables/linkages. Shifter/4x4 mounts, linkages, center console. I don't have the 5-sp driveshaft, so I'll probably need to find one of those too. Can it be from any 5-sp like a loyale that had the push-button 4x4 or an AWD, or do I need one specifically from a D/R? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 It seems to me that the radius arm plates for an automatic car do not have the mounting tabs for the 4 speed crossmember. I remember having to find and swap them when I did mine. Just another small detail that can be a pain if you aren't prepared for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red0ktober Posted July 10, 2011 Author Share Posted July 10, 2011 I don't know what the radius arm plate is... This is all I have of the 5-speed: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfreak85 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 The radius rod plates are found on EA81s. You need the manual transmission version to replace your auto-specific ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyeights Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) You will also need the small bracket that is spot welded to the floor on the inside of the trans tunnel (by the drivers seat) to mount your D/R shifter lever. The auto car doesn't have this either. Edited July 11, 2011 by Crazyeights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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