Hey folks -- I found a 1987 GL10 EA82T wagon, red w/the cool *pimp* grey interior, air suspension, all power, sunroof, automatic, **LOW MILEAGE** @ 103K:grin: , 13 inch mags w/ all the little circles on them (??), factory spoiler and fog lamps, and seems like a lot of other goodies. Its the single range trans :-\ . This car DOES have some electrical gremlins -- First:

1) The power door locks on the driver's side don't work...literally the driver's door won't open, either from the inside or the outside. Grrrr.

2) Next, I don't think the air suspension works-- when I push the button on the dash, I get no response, no light comes on, etc.

3) The dials/buttons for the HVAC system dont' work perfectly...i.e. the defrost button doesn't hold/work, and at least one other fan setting isn't working well.

4) Pwr windows are, like, SUPER slow in the rear. Grrrr.

Aside from electrical, the car runs good, despite some valve tappet which I think could be fixed by a new oil pump or just the gasket.

There is one bad dent in the qtr. panel, front, driver's side.

NO RUST

Price: $1,000.

 

Would this be the 3EAT or the 4EAT?

How rare is this car, and what is it worth? How easy would it be to fix the door locks?

Thanks for any input!

 

Blake

My '88 had the 4EAT tranny. The car is fairly common and the price seems fairly reasonable. The door shouldn't be too hard to fix I would think but you will have to get it open somehow to work on it. Using a slim jim may help get it open.

My '88 had the 4EAT tranny. The car is fairly common and the price seems fairly reasonable. The door shouldn't be too hard to fix I would think but you will have to get it open somehow to work on it. Using a slim jim may help get it open.

thanks for the reply, Cougar. So w/o doing a search (sometimes it's difficult to do a good search and get the info you need), what years did they make the 4EAT? I guess if the trans dial reads D, 2, 1 -- then it's a 3EAT, right?

 

Other opinions?

thanks, y'all!

Blake

I believe you are correct about the tranny. My '88 GL-10 had the 4EAT and the shift positions went like this: 2 3 D.

 

I don't know what years that model was made, sorry.

thanks for the reply, Cougar. So w/o doing a search (sometimes it's difficult to do a good search and get the info you need), what years did they make the 4EAT? I guess if the trans dial reads D, 2, 1 -- then it's a 3EAT, right?

 

Other opinions?

thanks, y'all!

Blake

More accurately, or at least commonly, called a 3AT... it is all hydro-mechanical, unlike what is called here the 4EAT, which is a 4-speed, and electronically controlled.

I don't like to be a "nay sayr' " but

 

NW is very correct, the difference between the electronically controlled

4EAT with overdrive and lock up torque converter

over the poor 3AT is amazing.

 

I have both an 87 GL-10 3AT (4000 RPM @ 70 MPH)

and

 

an 89 GL-10 4EAT (2500 RPM @ 70 MPH)

 

so I can tell you in all honesty- hold out for the 4EAT or plan on converting to a 5 speed.

 

Sounds like he is asking about twice what it should bring with the troubles you describe.

 

Ask him about - timing belt, H20 pump, oil pump service and head gasket problems. These are the important issues.

 

BTW the 3AT is is notorious for developing governor problems at this mileage.

and

They have a nasty habit of loosing the seal between the

front differential and the tranny.

 

The fluids mix and it's good bye 3AT.

 

Good luck and I will add the GL-10 with all it's

trinkets is also better sound insulated and more

user friendly than the normal GL (yes, I have one of those also).

 

Trouble is

 

the more "gadgetry"

the more likely you are to have problems.

Hope you "are 1" with a multimeter.

to answer the other question of when they came out with the 4EAT I believe it was either late '88 or the beginning of the '89 model year. Granted you could still get a car up to '94 in the Loyales and the DLs with the 3AT I believe. Like Skip said, either plan on upgrading to a 4EAT which can be kinda hard to find but can also have their problems, or to a 5-speed.

Awww...been off the 'board for awhile. Thanks for the correction that it's the 3AT not 3EAT.

Northwet...I knew you'd chime in...thanks for the info. You guys too Skip and Caboo.

Well, the car just so happens to have a need for a new alternator & oil pump, and I have no idea when or IF the darn timing belts were changed. If they haven't...they're prime for replacement.

I'm starting to lose interest.....unless I buy it and plan to just change it to a 5 speed D/R. Then it'd be a dream Subaru Loyale/Leone for me.

So are these cars common? Rare?

ehhh they're ore common then RX's, thats for sure...... especially black RXs which were only made in '89... and I have one:grin:

They are pretty common in your area. I have yet to pay more than $200 for one.. And most of mine have come from somewhere between bremerton and olympia ... Hell.. I have found more than one for free . With the troubles you have described, its probably not worth more than $500 or so.. And being a cheapskate, I probably wouldn't pay more than $250

They are pretty common in your area. I have yet to pay more than $200 for one ... ... And being a cheapskate, I probably wouldn't pay more than $250

WOW! A bigger cheapskate then me! My wife's '87 GL-10 Twagon cost us $350. 3AT with wonky governor (45 min to fix), blown vacuum modulator, and low and toasted ATF. Saggy air suspension; temp replaced with springs, but that air ride is nice. She loves it. But whatever ride she ends up with will get a 4EAT.

 

If the car was in good shape the $1000 might not be too bad. If you are willing to find one with a common soob problem that the average joe/jane doesn't know how to fix then there are some bargains around here. I just picked up an '88 XT for $200 with a plugged radiator.

 

My favorite reading is craigslist.com. (Note the pluralization... leave it off and you go someplace taht children shouldn't see.)

all i gotta say is f**k automatics, do the 5 speed D/R swap.