Roamer Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Can anyone fill me in as to why Subaru overlooks sometime the obvious. For example the climate controls and stock radio, why did they fail to illuminate these things for night drivers? At first I had thought that it was just my car, but now that I have a Legacy Wagon and an Outback, I see that it is a just a retarded design flaw. How did they manufacture the second generation Legacies for soo long without rectifying this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy777 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 It's all about cost....money drives a lot of things in design. As an engineer we want to put everything in we can to make it the best, but the bean counters pull things to make them more affordable or improve manufacturing time, etc etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmm001 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 As far as I know, the climate controls and radio are illuminated until the bulb behind them burns out. The real design flaw is the fact that the bulb is suceptible to this burnout, and it's more trouble than it's worth to tear the dash out to replace the bulb. An improvement in the design would be either A.) making the bulb last longer or B.) making it simple to replace. This bulb in my '95 Legacy as well as my parent's '98 Legacy burned out years ago. We're waiting for my dad's '97 Impreza to burn out. Brian M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outback_97 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 I agree with what Legacy777 said, but you're sure it's not just a burnt out bulb? In my 97 OB (we're talking 2nd gen Legacy, correct?) the buttons that let you choose where the air is flowing used to be illuminated and now the light has burnt out. This is a common occurrence in these cars (a search will confirm). The lights in the seat heater rocker switches have burnt out also. Also, you can adjust the level of dash illumination, IIRC to four settings, by rotating a knob on one of the steering column stalks. I'm assuming you've verified that's not turned down all the way. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roamer Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 Well I also have a 97 OBW, and never realized that at one point in time these buttons where illuminated. I also have a 96 Legacy and like the outback when purchased the buttons where also not illuminated, so I just assumed that it was the design. I guess I was wrong, from reading your post. but how come the lights in the dashboard dont burn out? Do they use a better bulb? I agree with what Legacy777 said, but you're sure it's not just a burnt out bulb? In my 97 OB (we're talking 2nd gen Legacy, correct?) the buttons that let you choose where the air is flowing used to be illuminated and now the light has burnt out. This is a common occurrence in these cars (a search will confirm). The lights in the seat heater rocker switches have burnt out also. Also, you can adjust the level of dash illumination, IIRC to four settings, by rotating a knob on one of the steering column stalks. I'm assuming you've verified that's not turned down all the way. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Can anyone fill me in as to why Subaru overlooks sometime the obvious. For example the climate controls and stock radio, why did they fail to illuminate these things for night drivers? At first I had thought that it was just my car, but now that I have a Legacy Wagon and an Outback, I see that it is a just a retarded design flaw. How did they manufacture the second generation Legacies for soo long without rectifying this? DO a search on climate control These bulbs burn out way too fast, use the radioshack replacement. No one fixes them because the dealer wants to sell you entire units, not just the bulbs. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegacy96 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 DO a search on climate control These bulbs burn out way too fast, use the radioshack replacement. No one fixes them because the dealer wants to sell you entire units, not just the bulbs. nipper My former dealer wanted $170 to replace the bulb. Took it to a local Subaru specialist who did it for $40. I was content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 hehe well then youll hate me when i say it costs me 6.00. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subie94 Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 hehe well then youll hate me when i say it costs me 6.00. nipper a do it yourself job? i'm lucky so far(knocks on wood) only bulb i had to replace is headlights.no instrument lights. i have a 94 legacy and climate control lights up.i think you have some bulbs out. this reminds me,i gotta replace the ash tray bulb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 yes it was real easy, just needed a bright light. If you can replace one of those mini xmass light bulbs, you can do this. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnan Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Hi, Our '96 had the same problem. Thanks to this board I realized that the bulbs were the culprit. I bought replacements from the dealer and installed them in a half hour or so. It wasn't particularly difficult; one just has to be patient with all those dashboard parts. Regards, Adnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnlyfnd Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 so easy to do this..I just did this yesterday for my climate and hazard light....My rear deforst is intemittent so i'll hold off on that for now, I have bigger fish to fry at the moment. Heres a link for instructions http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnuman Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I guess I was wrong, from reading your post. but how come the lights in the dashboard dont burn out? Do they use a better bulb? Well, for one they use a larger bulb, which dissapates heat better and does not burn out as fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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