The Dude Abides Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I have this problem. Every time i throw my car in gearand mash the gas the massive torque my engine produces throws it from side to side. How do i fix this:grin: Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Check your motor and transmission mounts. True torque steer is because of un equal length axles. And we don't have that problem. Shannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 on a serious note do they sell replacement engine and tranny mounts ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Quick browse, not cheap... motor http://www.overnightautoparts.com/storefront/buy.php?make_text=subaru&model_text=loyale&ml=&year=1990&part_name=engine_mount&brand_name=oeq&make_code=SU tranny http://www.overnightautoparts.com/storefront/buy.php?make_text=subaru&model_text=loyale&ml=&year=1990&part_name=transmission_mount&brand_name=oeq&make_code=SU -I'm Bratman Shannon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 x2... If yours are bad you might try finding better ones from a junk yard... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky92 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I have one laying around somewhere ..I think...engine mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I definition of torque steer is when your heading into a corner and your under steering, then you put your foot down and it pulls in tight and sometimes over steers. I.E. Torque induced steer. Thats what I call torque steer... Or is that something else? Maybe this is why I can never understand how engine mounts can make bad torque steer.. :-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobcob Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 My understanding of Torque Steer is the way that vehicles will tend to pull one way or the other when the gas is mashed to the floor... As 86BRATMAN mentioned, due to the unequal length axles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s'ko Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 check your ball joints and tie rods I had a situation where my tie rod was a bit loose and when I accelerated it would hop to the right and I let off the throttle it would hop to the left. BW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 ok ive got to stop kidding around here you guys are tooo helpful. i dont have a torque steer problem. torque steer is when you have to much power to your front wheels and it causes it to weave from side to side because of the unequal axels. i was only being funny at 2 am because our vehicles have 90 hp and are uncapable of torque steer. sorry was just kidding around but thank you all for your help anyways:clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I like to counteract humor with seriousness sometimes, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beataru Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 YOU WILL BE SORRY!!! (shakes Fist at screen) I thought that somehow you got one of our cars to do it, the onlything my car does that is related to FWD is that it understears like a pig with the throttle mashed... very scary but true torque stear is even scarryer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooziewhatsit Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 check your ball joints and tie rods I had a situation where my tie rod was a bit loose and when I accelerated it would hop to the right and I let off the throttle it would hop to the left. BW +1, especially check your ball joints. My 91 loyale would do just what you're describing; pull to one direction when hitting the gas, then pull the other direction when letting off the gas. When I got the ball joints out, they just flopped around -Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 check tie rods and ball joints both; either can cause this problem. not an awfully difficult job, but you will need to have the front end aligned after changing tie rod ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 So weird. On both Top Gear (british) and yous guys (mostly american) you all talk about toque steer the same. Yet one of our best racing commentators here in Australia and a couple of other austrailians I have talked to know it how I do.. Plus when your talking about FWD Alfa's they all seem to know it how I do. Oh and when my brother had the Telstar Turbo and was on MX6.com they all talked about it how I know it.. Isn't it weird how different "cultures" know things in different ways then others? Oh well, back to looking for a range rover.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONAN Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 It`s easily done in a Justy:headbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86BRATMAN Posted August 1, 2007 Share Posted August 1, 2007 Steering conditions are all in what you get use to. I had some time to bond with my hatch and the mountain today. I no longer consider it a non handling pos. I had a 2.0SER sentra hating me through the twisties... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samneric Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 So weird. On both Top Gear (british) and yous guys (mostly american) you all talk about toque steer the same. Yet one of our best racing commentators here in Australia and a couple of other austrailians I have talked to know it how I do.. Plus when your talking about FWD Alfa's they all seem to know it how I do. Oh and when my brother had the Telstar Turbo and was on MX6.com they all talked about it how I know it.. Isn't it weird how different "cultures" know things in different ways then others? Oh well, back to looking for a range rover.. I'm British and Jeremely Clarkson is NOOOO authority on the technical jiggery pokery that makes cars go - He is a hilarious presenter who's approach to explaining the techy stuff is simply "mashing" the accelerator, grinning from ear to ear and telling you if the car under or oversteers I hold the same view of torque steer as presented here - as learned from experience driving my first powerful transverse mounted engine car - My dream car of the time - the Vauxhall (Sorry, er, Holden!) Astra GTE. It is to do with this axle length business and stems from the fact that a FWD car with a transverse mounted engine will have the gear box differential on one side of the car or the other. The result of this arrangement is that the driveshaft connected to the wheel on the gearbox side of the car is going to be shorter than the one going to the opposite wheel. The steer effect comes from the fact that the longer driveshaft loses its ability to carry the torque along its length (I believe it actually twists slightly) while the shorter shaft delivers more of the power put out by the diff. So if one wheel has more torque than the other it is going to out-power the other wheel causing the car to turn. You can think of it in a similar way to how tanks steer - by stopping one track as the other keeps going. On low powered vehicles this is not so noticable but when you stuff a monster in there, all the extra horses galloping on one corner will whip the steering wheel right out of your hands! - Alpha's are particularly famous for this - V6 on the front wheels indeed! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daeron Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 On low powered vehicles this is not so noticable but when you stuff a monster in there, all the extra horses galloping on one corner will whip the steering wheel right out of your hands! - Alpha's are particularly famous for this - V6 on the front wheels indeed! Steve Alfa, not Alpha. Sorry, my old man has a 66 2600 Spyder with a body by Pininfarina that he has had longer than he has had ME, so its kinda rooted deeply in my brain. On the torque steer subject, my mom has a Mitsubishi 300GT SL, so yah.. V6 on the front wheels, INDEED! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4x4_Welder Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 YOU WILL BE SORRY!!! (shakes Fist at screen) I thought that somehow you got one of our cars to do it, the onlything my car does that is related to FWD is that it understears like a pig with the throttle mashed... very scary but true torque stear is even scarryer Ever driven a Caddy STS? 4.whatever v8 yanking around a heavy car by the nose. First time I drove one, I almost put it in the ditch. One thing a lot of people call torque steer is loss of traction on the front end. One of the top five reasons I hate FWD- when you stomp on it, and the tires take turns gripping the pavement or dirt, it yanks the wheel back and forth in a rather unpredictable way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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