raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Had cupping on previous tire. Got new tires three months ago, with wheel alignment, they said camber was -1.0 deg on front drivers side and could not be adjusted. Now notice getting same cupping on inside edge of same tire. Bushings look fine. Any thoughts? I dont want them soaking me for all sorts repairs when I take it in for diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 huh? Unless something is bent, they should be able to adjust it to spec. A bent suspension part, or a bad strut will cause cupping. WHo did you take it too? This isnt rocket science, they should have been able to tell you why they cant adjust it. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Cupping occurs when a tire continually bounces, usually a result of a bad shock absorber. How many miles on your Sube? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 mileage is 140,000. When I bought it four years ago it had about 95,000 and the previous tires were showing the same problem. I dont know if and when the previous owner replaced struts. When I push up and down on the car the shocks seem okay (little bounce). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 as to who I took it to, its a place that specializes in tires wheels suspensions and alignments. I am taking it back next Saturday and paln to fuss at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluestone Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 If just the left front tire is cupping, then there's gotta be a problem with the suspension, or possibly a wheel abnormality. Something's just not right with the left front side. If the camber is off and can't be adjusted, find out why; although I'm not sure if an off camber would cause cupping. Possibly your Subie was once in a collision, or have been hit by another car at the left front wheel area? Or suffered a severe, traumatic jolt by hitting a really bad pothole? When driving, do you notice any kind of irregularity in the steering, or any kind of vibration? If you take your hands off the steering wheel when the car is going down a flat, level road, does in pull or drift to one side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 The car does drive straight whenhands off, no shaking etc. On the older tires there was some, but less, cupping on other passenger front tire on the inner side. By the way, at this point the cupping/wear only extends in about 1/3 inch from the edge of tire. I'll try taking a picture of it when it gets a little brighter (and stops raining). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 they said camber was -1.0 deg on front drivers side and could not be adjusted.Maybe the eccentric/camber upper strut bolt to bearing housing bolt is already at the limits of its adjustment. If so you could try a ingalls or intrax or other camber bolt; those allow a little more adjustment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 I will add that note to the "Discussion" with the "Tire Experts" next Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 Here's what they look like. I bought these for my scorpion/king spring but didn't need them: There is a really good article on endwrench somewhere about how to do Subaru alignment. It shows all the adjustments and how much turning the various fasteners will change the settings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybo Posted September 15, 2007 Author Share Posted September 15, 2007 reading endwrench I found the following Wheel Alignment Camber and caster are not adjustable on Subaru L-series, XT or Justy vehicles. Toe is the only adjustment that can be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine73 Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 That may be true; fortunately your vehicle is not in that category and does have adjustable camber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 By now the average 99 is going to have needed a set of struts and tie rod ends and ball joints would be suspect as well as the bushings should be checked. If there is wear you can adjust it all you want and it will go right out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 By now the average 99 is going to have needed a set of struts and tie rod ends and ball joints would be suspect as well as the bushings should be checked. If there is wear you can adjust it all you want and it will go right out again. COOKIE! Such a pessamist. Blu just got his first ball joint at 210,000 miles nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted September 17, 2007 Share Posted September 17, 2007 My mothers '03 Legacy GT sedan with 55k and about 10k on the BFG Traction T/A's and four wheel alignment is wearing out the inside of all four tires evenly?? Is this common on the roos that have T/A's on them?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 NO. i wouldnt blame the tires either. Sounds like its a screwed up alignment. Roos don't eat tires unless something is wrong. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Well the shop that put the tires on did the alignment so I guess they shoudl be blamed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted September 26, 2007 Share Posted September 26, 2007 Well Mavis Tire put the tires on and did the alignment so I guess they should be blamed! Well my Mom just got back from Mavis Tire in Carmel, NY and they "re-checked" THIER alignment 20,000 miles ago and said the alignment is 20 degrees off and that is why ALL FOUR INNER TREADS WORE OUT!! Charged her $75 for a new alignment, and sent her on her way! I am guessing they will NOT stand behind the tires now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Well my Mom just got back from Mavis Tire in Carmel, NY and they "re-checked" THIER alignment 20,000 miles ago and said the alignment is 20 degrees off and that is why ALL FOUR INNER TREADS WORE OUT!! Charged her $75 for a new alignment, and sent her on her way! I am guessing they will NOT stand behind the tires now!! I would DEMAND new tires. nipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortlid Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I would DEMAND new tires. nipper Ever had any experince with Mavis Tire they are a New York tire store chain?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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