EvilDead Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I was curious if the A/C unit is needed for proper belt tension. I did a search for similar, didn't find much. Was just wondering if I could remove the unit, and still get ideal belt tension, or would I have to run a newer,smaller belt in it's place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[HTi]Johnson Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I believe you'll need a new belt. Just check to make sure that your belt will route properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDead Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Johnson']I believe you'll need a new belt. Just check to make sure that your belt will route properly. That's what I expected. I can experiment easier since the engine is on a stand anyways. I just don't like a/c units, unless they are on a lifted rig, used as a tire compressor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Lazy Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 previous owner removed the AC from my 87 Rx, I can help with measurements, pics etc. Lemme know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Loyale Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 You could also check out Rockauto.com. They have belts for cars that didn't come with A/C. Check them out, might be what you need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 You could also check out Rockauto.com. They have belts for cars that didn't come with A/C. Check them out, might be what you need! cars without A/C have the Alt in a different place....so a belt designed for one won't be quite what you're looking for if it's an inboard A/C unit (compressor between alt and PS pump), the stock belt will reach just fine. I'll have to look on the '86 tomorrow to see how the outboard A/C belts work.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I got an engine out of a JY that they took the A/c off of and I have manual steering so I had to find a smaller belt and make a bracket like the one in my pics.yes that is a socket extension plugging my PCV until I get a new PCV. :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94Loyale Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Numbchux, Right on, I didn't know that. Sorry for the mistake then. Regardless, if you do find the length of the belt you need. They have the length of the belts they sell listed on the website, so maybe you could just find one by length then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilDead Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 Right on. Yeah it's the inbound compressor, so I am sure everything will fit fine. I was also aware ya might need the extension to hold the alt in place correct. Yeah I have three EA82T's that are almost identical, and was planing on doing this with them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 With the inboard A/C compressors, the alternator mount is part of the A/C compressor mount. At least, that's how I remember it being. You'll want to go to a junkyard and pull the alternator mounting brackets off of a car without A/C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokebill Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 hey , my air conditioner pulley was raising hell so so i removed the belts, removed the pulley from the air conditioner compressor and figured i'd get a shorter belt and just run without the back belt. problem: the shaft that held the ac pulley blocked the new path of belt. my solution: took a hacksaw and sawed off shaft. got appropriate belt and actually feels stronger not using 2 belts to pull most of the same pulleys. Woulda been a lot easier if alt didn't bolt to the ac comp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 With the inboard A/C compressors, the alternator mount is part of the A/C compressor mount. At least, that's how I remember it being. You'll want to go to a junkyard and pull the alternator mounting brackets off of a car without A/C. Yes the Alt does bolt on the A/C bracket and if you cant find a non A/C car in the JY just make a bracket like in my pics.The only thing you need the A/C for ( if it dont work or you dont want it) is the belt adjustment for the alt and thats why I made that bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokebill Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 hope to be able to post pics soon. since i modified it to 1 belt, i have cut or unbolted a lot of ac hoses and fittings so even though cant completely remove ac , was able to free up a lot of working room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 If you remove the A/C it takes like 10 pounds off your car. I also removed the A/C condenser and all the lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yes the Alt does bolt on the A/C bracket and if you cant find a non A/C car in the JY just make a bracket like in my pics.The only thing you need the A/C for ( if it dont work or you dont want it) is the belt adjustment for the alt and thats why I made that bracket. don't need a custom bracket to remove the compressor on an inboard setup. stock bracket works fine. I'll try to dig up pics of either of my '88s engine bay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomRhere Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/TomRhere/82%20BRAT/bratbelt2.jpg Pic of how alt was done on my '82 BRAT with EA-82 engine. Belt is a GoodYear 15411 Gatorback (11AV1030). Compressor bracket was still on engine, and I did manage to get a proper length bolt for the front most hole to better secure the upper bracket, some time after that pic was taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertsubaru Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/TomRhere/82%20BRAT/bratbelt2.jpg Pic of how alt was done on my '82 BRAT with EA-82 engine. Belt is a GoodYear 15411 Gatorback (11AV1030). Compressor bracket was still on engine, and I did manage to get a proper length bolt for the front most hole to better secure the upper bracket, some time after that pic was taken. Where does the top bracket bolt to? under your aircleaner somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeshoup Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Just browse the junkyards here in CO. In fact, I may have an alternator bracket laying around. Plus, I think Shawn mentioned a huge box of brackets to me some time at CCR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/TomRhere/82%20BRAT/bratbelt2.jpg Pic of how alt was done on my '82 BRAT with EA-82 engine. Belt is a GoodYear 15411 Gatorback (11AV1030). Compressor bracket was still on engine, and I did manage to get a proper length bolt for the front most hole to better secure the upper bracket, some time after that pic was taken. exactly. there's a bolt in the back that IIRC bolts to the intake mani. I ran like that (except with the power steering and stock belt) for about a year and a half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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