February 2, 200917 yr First off, I have done Legacy clutch replacements... In comparison, of my initial look at what this will take, I noticed what looks like bolts with nuts on the bellhousing/engine/tranny. On a Legacy, its studs with nuts. Is my assumption correct on the bolts going all the way thru? Also since my BRAT has a 4 inch lift, it looks as if that i should borrow my Dad's transmission jack, simply get some pressure under the tranny in a balance with the brackets supporting the tranny, and just start unfastening the tranny from engine. It looks as if, once unfastened there, i could undo the support mounts and basically slide the tranny up and back a little, up the 4 inch it dropped due to lift kit. Then, there should be room enough to service the clutch etc. Looks as if the exhaust can stay put, and it looks like the time involved should only take like 5 hours total. Am I totally wrong on this? basically instead of pulling the tranny out and down, unfasten and slide up the 4 inches and slide back a little. should allow to get in to the clutch i would think. engine stays put, exhaust stays put, speedo cable stays put, etc. comments are welcome.
February 2, 200917 yr Sounds good to me! If you can do it in a Legacy you can do it in your Brat. It's a lot alike. Very straight forward, but less parts and stuff to remove than your Legacy. The bolts do go through the bellhousing and they don't thread into the block, they are just bolts with nuts and then the two lower bellhousing nuts as well. Have fun and good luck!
February 2, 200917 yr Author forgot one more thing, remove axle roll pins....slide off axles... is there a clutch pitch fork removal necesary, or does it slide off the snout of the tranny.
February 2, 200917 yr forgot one more thing, remove axle roll pins....slide off axles... Probably a good idea, just so you don't pull them apart when you move the tranny/lift it
February 2, 200917 yr regardless of height , no matter how many times i tried this i would have much preferred to just take the motor out. that way you spend most of your day at least bending over as opposed to laying a cold surface,creeper or not. i cannot tell you how many times i have pulled a motor on a subaru.up to first gen legacies.... if you have a piece of like fiber board or hardibacker or something,you can put it in front of the radiator with fans out and just lean the engine forward.a bit.when i say lean, i mean with the motor mounts up and out of the crossmember..... thats if your lazy... like i said, i would just pull it.but i can have a motor out pretty quick.it allows you too view the motor , its components,and determine if some other isssues should be addressed ,that pesky leak,those loud lifters,etc.........because when you do your clutch it is much easier to put a new rear seal in when you can sit above the motor.i mean, i'm just jabberin here, but.....we are talkin about subarus...might as well do a bit if your gonna do any. cheers, brian
February 2, 200917 yr Author no loud lifters, its a 85 BRAT, hydro yeah... but i do have oil leaks, and i have new stuff to seal it, including new valve cover gaskets, new oil pan gasket, rear main seal etc. similar discussion, but on my SVX, I cant even see or reach the transmission to engine bolts etc. that thing has no space to put a hand, or tool, or anything. that will suck to work on. Luv the BRAT Edited February 2, 200917 yr by bheinen74
February 2, 200917 yr I too would pull the motor to do the job. And I did. I had my motor out, by myself, in less than 1 hour! Then from there it's just taking old parts off and putting new ones on, maybe a little cleaning, and then putting it all back in!
February 2, 200917 yr Author agreed, and, the only time i wanted to pull the motor was for my 92ss EJ22T donation......which is not quite yet. but in a few years. I guess i will pull the ea81 up and do the seal repairs and clutch and such...... and not think about the ej22t swap until my 92 finally rusts in half...which it is getting closer and closer to the day. yeah, just pull the engine. makes all the other stuff you want to do easy.....
February 2, 200917 yr I always pull the engine. Seems easier to me. So much work involved dropping the box out and lifting it back into place sucks! I acutally took the engine out to put my 5sp in, just bolted it to the engine and put them both in the top at the same time. Easy as pie.
February 2, 200917 yr Even though ive never pulled a engine or tranny on these cars im assured its easier to pull the engine then to get the cvshafts back into the transmission. Just a thought.
February 2, 200917 yr Author cv's are CAKE. speaking of going to 5spd, is the 4 spd DR/EA81 clutch kit workable with a 5spd DR to EA81 swap? wuts the drive ratio for the 5spd out of say, a 87/89 Gl wagon wth 5spd D/R
February 2, 200917 yr Better now than later, you have to do a clutch, might as well be for a 5 speed, you'll love it -Bill Edit, you will need a clutch disk for an 85-86 EA82 4wd rig ONLY, 87 and up disks wont fit in the EA81 pressure plate.
February 2, 200917 yr b its time to sacrafice the ss. That would be awsome, think of the power, think of the speed. Think of the parts that could be donated to me, errr uhh i mean. Think of the space you will have buy haveing 1 less car
February 2, 200917 yr Author more i think, i might just throw a clutch in, and let her ride......til something fails so i can go e22t swap.....yay the whole plan for when i got this BRAT was a donor ej22t from my rusty 92 into the non rusty BRAT, bought site unseen beers edit, BEN, yeah for sure the 92 will be smashed in a few years. trying to get some more out of it though// never seen a BRAT do the 0-60 in like 5 or 1/4 in 14.5 that will be fun. Edited February 2, 200917 yr by bheinen74
February 2, 200917 yr Maybe were going in the wrong direction here but im thinking swap the suspension over from 4 lug to 5 lug so you can have wheels galore as well.
February 2, 200917 yr Author Maybe were going in the wrong direction here but im thinking swap the suspension over from 4 lug to 5 lug so you can have wheels galore as well. thats the plan but when? all the Brat needs for WCSS is a clutch..... which is still on the kitchen table, i double checked part number and its right for me BRAT.......get er done........ need a help hand
February 2, 200917 yr I can help you just need to tell me when. That might be the only problem. I wont be able to go to wcss. Ive just about run out of vacation days due to my wife being sick.
February 2, 200917 yr Sounds like this has already been hammered home, but for what it's worth, I have done two clutch jobs by dropping the tranny, once for ea81, and once on a gen one ea71. Both times big pain in the rump roast. Even if you don't "have to " do things like remove sway bar and exhaust, You will wish you did. I have done clutches since by pulling engine. much easier. But this is redundant redundant.
February 2, 200917 yr For what it's worth, I have a regular Brat clutch and pressure plate on a machined flywheel in my 5 spd dual range Brat
February 4, 200917 yr For what it's worth, I have a regular Brat clutch and pressure plate on a machined flywheel in my 5 spd dual range Brat , your can't have an EA81 friction plate on an EA82 gearbox.. The splines are different.
February 4, 200917 yr , your can't have an EA81 friction plate on an EA82 gearbox.. The splines are different. When I ordered my clutch kit from NAPA I cross referenced the part numbers for a Loyale/EA82 and for the Brat, and they were the same. It went on with no problem and works great! I dunno. I also know that when I asked my friend what he did with his, he ordered his for an EA81.
February 5, 200917 yr EJ and EA82 gearboxes use the same spline. EA81 4sp D/R's are a smaller spline. Can someone explain this? Maybe in the US Brat's got a more uprated gearbox? Or maybe the 5sp EA81 2WD boxes use the bigger spline and its a 2WD clutch? I'm
February 5, 200917 yr EJ and EA82 gearboxes use the same spline. EA81 4sp D/R's are a smaller spline. Can someone explain this? Maybe in the US Brat's got a more uprated gearbox? Or maybe the 5sp EA81 2WD boxes use the bigger spline and its a 2WD clutch? I'm Yeah me too:confused:I'm not disagreeing with you, I just know what I ordered and also know that it works. But I do have a 5 spd dual range out of an EA82, The flywheel is machined so that it works great! And like I said when I ordered it, I cross referenced them part numbers and they were the same.
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