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[bill hincher]

lets have some fun >;o)
one of your fearless members asked me about a bellhousing to mate the Sub engine to a purely RWD unit, preferably the Toyota W series transmission, I thought it was a neet idea
the only trouble was is that my main man mellow65 lived a cool 1500 miles away from me, so he sent me some material in the mail


the first thing I did was to square the rear of the housing so i could set it on its back and get my centers

then I cleaned out the center section so I could indicate my centers

this one number is critical to the datum lines


then I could cut down the rear of the housing to the right length for the input shaft



after all that, a datum plate had to be built to hold everything in place while building the pattern, the bolt pattern is built into this datum plate and a center locater is placed in it

the existing belhousing is bolted to the datum plate

then a center dowel is placed off the datum

then the front plate removed from a W 58 Toyota trans is attached to the center

and that gives you a roughed in sketch to work with to build a pattern

the next step is to build the back plate on the bellhousing

[carfreak85]

I'm assuming there were supposed to be pictures in here somewhere... I'm all for a purely RWD trans option! What did the W-series come in originally?

[bill hincher]

yeah, I can see the pics on both of my computers

the W 55 through 59 series Toyota trans came on everything from a 4wd toyota truck to a 2 wd Supra, they came on everything

[Qman]

Pics came through just fine here as well.

[The Beast I Drive]

Im excited to see these completed, I can't wait to drop a hopped up 2.2 or 2.5/2.2 Hybrid into my '85 Yota, then maybe I'll have a lot more interest working on it

I think this is a great piece of work you are creating!

-Bill

[Gloyale]

I want to use a married toyota transfer case for a lifted subaru. Sami cases are weak, and 720's are getting hard to find........and the whole deal is longer than a married unit.

Crawler kit in the T-case and 4.44 LSD difs front and rear.

[carfreak85]

Hmmmm, it seems that PeerBlocker doesn't like your website.

[bill hincher]

Hmmmm, it seems that PeerBlocker doesn't like your website.

after my brother-in-laws 4th wife left him , I tried to explain to him

It's not them, it's you! >;o)

[monstaru]

any updates?
i too have been waiting for this.cheers, brain

[thatswhatshesaid]

I REALLY want to see what comes of this. It sounds like a perfect solution for my 2000 Outback project...

[bill hincher]

sorry about the late reply, yes, I been puttering with my little Sub project.
I build a variety of housings and ship around the world and get a bit distracted
This is for the T 56 to the narrow block 4G63 Mits engine

This fits the R 154 to either the wide block or the narrow block or the EVO's Mits engine


sometimes I can dream, sometimes I can invent and sometimes I can build, but it dont work like an assembly line, sucsess is usually a series of small failures >;o)

Edited by bill hincher, 15 July 2010 - 10:17 PM.

[bill hincher]

after the bellhousing was measured and cut down to size, the back of the new housing was squared with the front of the housing



then the new trans facing was put into place and indexed to the proper angle



the facing was ancored and the lower skirt was decided on for the proper drafting while casting





then each panel is cut out and replaced to build a conforming justure from the front of the housing to the trans mounting surface

[thatswhatshesaid]

So...do we have a complete setup yet?

[Twitch de la Brat]

Hot diggity dog, this is looking promising...
I can't wait until I can run an AE86 with an EJ engine

Twitch

[kiwi subbie]

Hot diggity dog, this is looking promising...
I can't wait until I can run an AE86 with an EJ engine

Twitch

Ive seen a few pics of a AE86 running a EJ

[bill hincher]

I cut out the clutch controls and the starter bagage, then reconsruted it to size



there are two trans bolt patterns fit into the trans facing, one is for the W series Toyota trans, the other is for the R series Toyota trans, that way it will offer more selection for what you want to do

I like to build a little cleaner looking sides and improve the draft lines for the casting shop

its important to visualize when reconstructing the starter pocket, that this will shrink by 1% in all directions , so this pattern must be adjusted to a larger size then expected

I am going to leave the clutch controls alone until I assemble the whole unit and test the throw out bearing operation, the measurements are just too critical at this point to make a mistake


the trans bolt pattern is not traced out for looks, I build a wide bolt flange landing before the bellhousing walls are built as a guide, I need to know the bolt pattern before I can add structure gussets from the side wall down to the trans face plate

looks like this bellhousing is tired of all the surgury >;o)

[monstaru]

that looks killer.....i can't wait.cheers, brian

[bill hincher]

I went out and bought a Sub core motor for mock up







I built a rotisary to be able to move the engine in any position and make adjustments as the build proceeds



I mounted up an R 150 Toyota trans to check input shaft length and some cenetering, it looks like it is coming along nicely

[mellow65]

Its a beautiful piece of work. I can't wait for it all to reach the point of being done.

[mellow65]

just so people can know for themselves

http://en.wikipedia...._W_transmission

as Bill said anything from a w55 to a w59.

[bill hincher]

this also fits the R 150 and 151 series, the early V-6 transmission

[Thirtytwo]

This is awesome!!! Are you going to be selling these?

[bill hincher]

This is awesome!!! Are you going to be selling these?

kinda the idea, yea, once I get done building them:)

depending on the throw out bearing the cost should be in the mid $300.00 range

the design hopes to use all Sub hardware , like clutch fork, pivot ball and slave cylinder flywheel. starter and pressure plate with just a Toyota disc to finish the build

[Storm]

I just realized you're located in Toledo, Bill....that makes this project 10x cooler!

[Thirtytwo]

awesome, I will definitely be buying one then