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Legacy STi ?
Posted 07 September 2003 - 07:46 PM
But how about more power? A found this quick blurb in the Asian spy reports of Popular Mechanics magazine:
It's about 1/2 way down the page.
Anyone know if this could arrive in the USA in 2006 or 2007? Any inside info at all?
I want the new Legacy, but if there will be an STi version the following year or two, I will wait for it.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 07:54 PM
Versions without the STi performance equipment might be offered with a new diesel co-developed with Isuzu.
Posted 07 September 2003 - 11:58 PM
Posted 08 September 2003 - 01:17 AM
I think the 3.0 would be a better starting point if you want 250hp.
Posted 08 September 2003 - 12:14 PM
Posted 08 September 2003 - 04:33 PM
Come on diesel!
Despite all of the bad things I have heard, I am almost crazy enough to buy a VW TDI to get 50mpg. If subaru sold an AWD diesel in the US I would buy one for sure! I mean, with piston slap it already sounds like a diesel anyway, right!
Posted 08 September 2003 - 04:40 PM
i'd be curious to see if subaru makes them try to make an opposed (boxer) diesel...
Posted 08 September 2003 - 07:21 PM
Posted 08 September 2003 - 07:43 PM
I have read that we are going to start seeing a lot more diesels here, especially after the sulfur content of the fuel is further reduced and the manufacturers can lower emissions even more.
The Jeep Liberty supposedly will soon be available with a diesel, but it will still be an ugly POS.
Now if they would release the diesel with a d/r tranny, I would forsake all other makes for the rest of my days, promise. I bet a lot of the old school guys would be pretty excited too.
We need to start a letter writing effort or something.
Come on diesel d/r suby!!!!!
Ok, I am getting too excited, I will shut up now.
Posted 08 September 2003 - 07:51 PM
Posted 09 September 2003 - 05:28 AM
Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:12 PM
Posted 09 September 2003 - 06:56 PM
One unfortunate impression I get from the VW diesels is that they are very complex. The diesel's simplicity is what makes it so reliable. I hope subaru doesn't make a complicated mess out of it.
Another dissapointment in the VW's is the lack of a block heater. I guess one can be rigged on but it isn't straight forward. I would probably carry some ether with me in the winter just in case. What is the thing going to do when it is -20F, which it gets down to here 9 out of 10 winters. I have a heated garage at home, but not at work. VW's fuel heating system is pretty cool though. And of course, any practical over the road diesel needs a turbo.
I have always been impressed with diesels. My dad's '92 frieghtliner was so impressive when bobtailing (no trailer). He would skip gears (13 normally) and press me back in the seat like a race car. 1550 ft-lbs of torque will do that. When loaded it would get 6mpg at 80,000lbs GVW. They are probably better now. I think a diesel's power would be very satisfactory for most of the NA gas powered subaru owners. We aren't used to a lot of hp. Of course that will change with the new turbos.
I sincerely don't want VW to be my only diesel option.
Posted 10 September 2003 - 09:30 AM
Posted 10 September 2003 - 11:51 PM
Posted 11 September 2003 - 04:01 PM
Posted 11 September 2003 - 04:04 PM
I doubt that diesel is really that hard to find, you just need to be familiar with where to find it.
Living in a rural area I find diesel is readily available.
Posted 11 September 2003 - 04:57 PM
PS One problem of diesel engines in cars in the US is the high sulphur content. Diesel particulate filter equipped cars need sulphur free diesel or ultra low sulphur (<50 ppm if Im not mistaken) which currently isn't available in the US but universal in the UK.
Posted 12 September 2003 - 11:34 AM
Originally posted by HB_Dad
I would NEVER want a diesel due to the fact diesel stations are nowhere near as plentiful as regular gas stations, at least here in California!
If you live near an interstate highway it should be a piece of cake finding diesel. Since lots of trucks frequent the interstate, and need diesel, it should be available at nearly every pump station you can find along the way.
Posted 03 November 2003 - 04:52 PM
Saab Faces Tough Future Within GM
Lutz says. “We're not ready to announce anything yet, but its fair to say we're encouraging cooperation between Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru) and Saab.” This is a reference to the new Impreza based 9-2.
Saab insiders say they are looking at using the next-generation Subaru Impreza platform to develop a new small car for Europe. The problem is Subaru doesn't make diesel versions.
"The boxer engines (Subaru's horizontally-opposed fours and sixes) are stumbling blocks," says Lutz. "Nobody has yet done a boxer diesel. There isn't one in our portfolio."
However, engineering sources says Saab and Subaru are seriously looking to develop a diesel boxer for the so-called Saab 9-1 and the next-generation Impreza.
Posted 04 November 2003 - 05:30 PM
Posted 05 November 2003 - 12:05 AM
The Legacy will probably come here with a EJ25T in between the Forester/Baja Turbo and the STi, probly somewhere around 250 hp... The B4 designation is still sketchy though...
Posted 05 November 2003 - 12:40 PM
With modifications (chip, larger injector nozzles and/or larger injector pump plungers some of the TDI guys are getting close to 200 hp and well over 200 lb. ft. torque out of a 1.8 liter four cylinder that hhas 90 hp and 155 lb. ft. torque stock. Check out TDI Power Enhancements. If the previous poster is right a boxer would have even more potential.
Posted 06 November 2003 - 12:05 AM
1. boxer engines are strong because the crankshaft bearing cap is the other half of the engine case. This should permit Subaru to produce an light aluminum diesel engine, which few other manufacturers have attempted.
2. boxer engines have short crankshafts that can be much stronger than those in inline fours
3. diesel's tend to vibrate at low RPM (idle) due to unequal combustion between cylinders, and the boxer's punch, counter-punch action should reduce vibration.
I came across a few pages which detail a Scottish Yoke engine that was built from Subaru and custom components and installed in in an Australian Subaru Liberty.
A Scottish Yoke engine is a type of horizontally opposed engine where the opposite cylinders are directly opposed to each other and a single connecting rod joins both opposing pistons.
Makes for interesting reading and apparentely Subaru is now involved in trying to bring the engine to market.
Now what I want:
Subaru Hybrid with a diesel H4 Scottish Yoke engine with electric motor/generator between engine and transmission (like the Honda and Toyota hybrids) and instead of a driveshaft to the rear wheels, an electric motor/generator to propel the rear wheels. And add one of those new diesel exhaust particulate filters.....
Posted 06 November 2003 - 08:42 PM
What cha think?
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