Some Hondas use ball lugs, does anybody know if they will work with Pug alloys? They're pretty inexpensive and seem to have similar geometry:

 

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Product Description:

A set of 20 brand new chrome lug nuts for your factory Acura/Honda wheels.

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Specifications:

12mm x 1.50 Thread Pitch

1 3/8" or 35mm Overall Length.

Radius/Ball Seat

19mm Hex

Meets or Exceeds OEM specifications.

You will receive:

(20) Brand New Radius Seat Wheel Locks.

( Part#: lnhon12-20 )

 

Fitment Guide:

Will Fit All Models Below:

Acura:CL 2.2/3.0 (98-00)

CL 3.2 (01-03)

Integra All Models (86-01)

Legend (86-95)

MDX (01-06) - NSX (94-05)

RDX (07-08) - RL 3.5 (97-04)

RSX (02-06) - SLX (96-99)

TC 2.5 (92-95)

TL / TL 3.2 (96-10)

TSX (04-10) - Vigor (92-94)

 

Honda:

Accord All Models (82-10)

Civic All Models (80-10)

CR-V (97-10) - CTX (88-95)

Element All Models (03-10)

FIT (07-10)

Insight All Models (00-10)

Odyssey (95-04)

Passport (94-03)

Pilot (03-10)

Prelude (97-01)

S2000 All Models (01-08)

This:

... 1.50 Thread Pitch ...

is the Keyword: Subarus Screws are 1.25 Pitch, so The Nuts Won't Work unless you Change the Screw too.

This:

 

is the Keyword: Subarus Screws are 1.25 Pitch, so The Nuts Won't Work unless you Change the Screw too.

 

Good catch.

In any case they will not work - pug alloy lug nuts are not simply ball-seat lug nuts. They are special and that's why there's no simple replacement.

 

GD

I've seen a few posts on here mentioning adapters to go from acorn to ball, are they similar to these VW adapters?

 

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If not, where could I find some?

They are not similar to anything. They are unique to a pug and only a pug. There was a guy making reproduction lug nuts - a search of the forum should yeild that post. Last I heard there were sets availible - be prepared for sticker shock though.

 

They do turn up in junk yards, etc - I just sold a set to a local guy for $50 (pretty rusty or I would have charged more). They are not easy to find but there aren't many people looking for them either.

 

GD

ive used the vw adapters on two gl cars

one i put over 100k on, the other about 40k

they worked well, no ill affects, i got them at a vw/dune buggy shop in portland

 

are pug nut better? prolly, did these work, yep-paid about 25 bucks for all of em

They might work, but it's a safety concern. They don't seat properly on the rim. The contact area of a ball adaptor is very small compared to a proper Pug lug.

 

They aren't *that* hard to find. I would just look for a used set.

 

GD

I recently bought a set of the first gen reproduction lugs from a member here that was making them and they fit perfectly. I had the VW adapters before. GD is right about the safety concern with those. The repros are WELL WORTH the money. They are perfect and the second run was even plated if I remember correctly. Just my 2 cents.