bgambino Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 I was thinking about buying an 02 forester with a problem motor I have an 02 and a 2000 OB wagon with good motors Can these blocks fit into the forester and just swap the intakes? (FYI the forester is a manual and the wagons are automatics) Before you answer see below The guy from the local (and HUGE) Subaru salvage yard here says no.... not without a lot of work (WHY CAN'T you PASTE INFO IN YOUR MESSAGES HERE???? can someone explain that to me?) He said this...... 1st email----"you would have to change the block" 2nd email after I asked if it had something to do with the spacing of the intake ports he said....""it's a lot to type but the blocks do not work forester to legacy without splitting it and changing 1/2 of the block to another to another style" I have no idea what he is saying...does anyone know for sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) hes retarded. they are the same motors. a sohc naturally aspirated 2.5 is the same as every other sohc n/a 2.5(as long as pzev isnt an issue) some have egr, some dont thats an easy swap good luck have fun man Edited December 4, 2015 by Crawlerdan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 sorry...should have read..." It's a lot to type but the blocks do not work Forester to Legacy without splitting it and changing 1/2 of the block to another style. He also said..."Spacing for intake is done on the heads" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 um...no...you need to find another "expert" i just did EXACTLY, what your asking about, in a day, no swapping manifolds, getting 27mpg right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 what year OB did you take the motor out of? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 We put an 03 Forester engine in an 02 outback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 you had to change the intake no?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawlerdan Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 Nope, not at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 well...I emailed the guy on craigslist...lets see if it is still available...I doubt it thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 The engines will swap, BUT The left cam gear and the crank sprocket will have to be swapped between the engines. Also, since the Forester is a manual, you really should have a timing belt guard on the oil pump. Otherwise, no problem. Emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmdew Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Emily, you and Rick and the rest of the Gang at CCR are the best. Thanks for taking the time to post to the USMB, I know you have a lot going on. Larry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted December 5, 2015 Share Posted December 5, 2015 Emily, you and Rick and the rest of the Gang at CCR are the best. Thanks for taking the time to post to the USMB, I know you have a lot going on. Larry Thanks, Larry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Hey Emily....how's the recuperation going? By left...which side do you mean? Am why the belt guard depending if manual or automatic? What's the issue as to why they all have or don't have it? Thanks for the education Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyfacefitz Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Along those lines I have a 2002 OBW automatic (sixth digit) with an engine knock. I wanted to confirm that the years that will work are 2000-2003 correct? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 back as far as 1999 in a Forester. Your looking for a vehicle with an EJ251 engine tag. If you match that, then you have a swappable engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Hey Emily....how's the recuperation going? By left...which side do you mean? Am why the belt guard depending if manual or automatic? What's the issue as to why they all have or don't have it? Thanks for the education "Left" and "right" are always noted as if you're sitting in the driver's seat. Therefore, left is always driver's side, right is always passenger's side. The belt guard is to protect the belt from skipping time. An automatic won't roll backward when the car is stopped and in park. A manual will, unless the E-brake is set. You know...that little backward roll for a few feet...it's enough to jump time and cause problems in these zero tolerance engines because the engine actually rotates backward when that happens. Recuperation. HA! If anyone ever says they want to fuse your entire spine AND put titanium screws and rods in you from your neck to your butt, tell them to go to hell! I did it for good reasons but I still wish I hadn't. I work from home, I haven't driven in 2 1/2 years, I'll never be able to bend ever again and I have constant spasms unless I'm lying flat on my back. I may just be the most badass woman you will ever know, because I've gone through it TWICE. Otherwise, I'm good. How about you? Or, as they say in New York, "how's by you?" Emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 back as far as 1999 in a Forester. Your looking for a vehicle with an EJ251 engine tag. If you match that, then you have a swappable engine There is no actual thing as an EJ251. That is something that is found only in internet forums. Also, EJ253 or EJ25D. It's internet shorthand. Just FYI. Emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forester2002s Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 "Left" and "right" are always noted as if you're sitting in the driver's seat. Therefore, left is always driver's side, right is always passenger's side. Emily, Yes, 'Left' and 'Right' are always facing forward. But the 'driver's side, and 'passenger's side' depend on whether the car is LHD (Left-Hand Drive) or RHD (Right-Hand Drive). So what might be correct in the Americas, would be the opposite in Britain/Australia/NZ etc, So, lets just call it 'Left-side' and 'Right-side, facing forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccrinc Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Emily, Yes, 'Left' and 'Right' are always facing forward. But the 'driver's side, and 'passenger's side' depend on whether the car is LHD (Left-Hand Drive) or RHD (Right-Hand Drive). So what might be correct in the Americas, would be the opposite in Britain/Australia/NZ etc, So, lets just call it 'Left-side' and 'Right-side, facing forward. You are correct. Even traveling in Europe and South America, I (so far) have never encountered a RHD vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Sorry to hear that Em..... You are tough as nails girl....!....I hope things get better for you Thanks for the info....I always question when people say left/rt because I don't trust that people are speaking from the drivers seat Now YOU I should trust...! And thanks for the info on the T belt guard....I will store that away in my head 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgambino Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I have a duh moment...I should have asked: 1--WHY would the crank sprocket need to be changed? 2--why the cam gear also(by that I assume we are talking about the "pulley" that is on the end of the cam shaft that the T belt rides on?)? If you are dropping a whole engine.....and maybe? just swapping the intakes (not even sure about this part)----why do u have to do 1 & 2 above? While we are talking about 2000-2003/4 OB/forester engine swaps.....what about the imprezas? I wish we had an accurate sticky of all the possible engine swaps......and what if anything would need to be adjusted to make the swap THAT would be a valuable asset here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt167 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 there are a couple different sensor wheel arrangments for the engines. They all take the same sensors, but the sensors read differently and the ECU needs to see the right readings from the sensor wheels... mix them up and the engine will run, but not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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