So I know some of you have put accord springs in the rears, as have I... but I am thinking of adding some rear discs as well and may just get the whole rear set up that would have a sway bar. But my concern is that with the stiffer and higher rear end, that the sway bar may be more trouble. Anyone have this combination out there yet?

I'm sure you know this. But I will make my point. sway bars reduce body roll and help keep the unweighted wheel closer to the ground as well as stiffen the suspention. Often used on for road/track racing. lower vehicles.

 

By lifting your car you loose the preformance of cornering. For 4x4ing you usally want articulation which lets each wheels travel happen very independently. a sway bar would defeat that.

 

It's kinda like a enduro motorcycle. I think they are cool but my point is. They aren't very good dirt bikes, they aren't very good road bikes because they can do everything that means they don't do anything well.

 

Thats why you need at least two subarus. One for street one for dirt and a couple in between.

 

I'll shut up now!

What year accord do I look for? Going to replace me rear struts soon and would like to add some extra ground clearance/weight capacity if possible.

Thanks

It shouldnt make any difference.

The springs you want for the rear are the FRONT ones from an 86-89 Accord.

I have the first honda spring conversion (the year does mater) and no rear sway bar. I use the car on pavement 95% of the time and occasionally end up on a fun little dirt road. I dont feel the sway bar is necessary for my purposes.

 

there are exceptions. I would consider is if I were to use it for autoX or some other tight corner racing.

 

I have been told that a sway bar is a crutch for poorly designed suspension. I have also seen evidence that they can cause accidents. they do NOT help handling on uneven pavement. It actually will put you into a slide. I know of two people that have totaled out cars shortly after installing sway bars ONLY. Both lost control on sections of uneven pavement that they knew well. one rolled over and the other stoped in a telephone pole. Of course driver error must have played a part in these incidents but not completely.

so, if the front springs in stock form will raise the rear, will drop springs lower it?

Does anyone have pictures of their setup? Might be something i'd be interested in on my next rig.

 

-Brian

http://www.ultimatesubaru.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6364&page=1&pp=10&highlight=honda+spring+lift

 

a couple pics in this thread

Rallyruss covered some important stuff about sway bars, you can control roll two ways, more sway bar or stiffer springs and dampers. The OEMs go with bigger bars and softer springs to preserve ride quality, race cars tend to use more spring and less bar, this gives better control in all conditions but makes for a pretty stiff ride.

 

Gary

Awesome! One more question: Does the accord just have a v6 or does it have the i4 too? Just wondering if there might be different spring rates.

So it seems like there is still quite a lot of different opinions on it. I guess we will have to find out from those who added sway bars what the difference in feel is. Because with the different spring, I find the ride to be a bit harsher on bumps when there is no weight in the back. But when you are loaded up to where the old ones would sit on the rubber stops, you have far better handling. Also with the bit of extra height, it seems to have a bit more body roll in fast corners... good thing I picked up some RX seats!

Does the accord just have a v6 or does it have the i4 too?

no only 4 squirls under the hood in those years.

 

yeah I notice the harsher ride on speed bumps espically but load capacity is great.

 

so, if the front springs in stock form will raise the rear, will drop springs lower it?

I would guess you may come out close to stock height depending on how drastic the drop was intended to be. I have actually considered going that way when the larger all terrain tires wear out and I go back to some nice street tires.

I realize that my sube gearing sucks with no low range and larger tires.

no only 4 squirls under the hood in those years.

 

yeah I notice the harsher ride on speed bumps espically but load capacity is great.

 

 

I would guess you may come out close to stock height depending on how drastic the drop was intended to be. I have actually considered going that way when the larger all terrain tires wear out and I go back to some nice street tires.

I realize that my sube gearing sucks with no low range and larger tires.

that is where i am at as well. the body and inside is so clean i really dont want to hurt it wheeling.

no only 4 squirls under the hood in those years.

Cool! Thanks!