Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Hey guys, I'm not familiar with Subaru cars and trying to become as abreast as possible with my 1989 XT6. I have so many questions.....and trying to look for parts: how exactly does the 4wd system engage? (technically speaking) because I push the button and i don't feel as if though it works. Where can I find a rear passenger side half shaft. These are just a few things that I need to know to get my suuub moving can anyone please help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I think you have AWD not just selectable 4WD Any labels on it to saw AWD? If so, and the button you don't say where , is a diff lock button? You won't feel anything Get it on loose surface, wind window down to listen and take off Ina hurry. Do you hear rear wheels gripping and just front wheels tearing away on loose surface? There is a difference. If you have AWD and diff lock, diff lock is for centre diff inside rear of gearbox, so it is also manual not automatic? The centre diff lock ties the front wheels diff and the rear wheel diff together for off road stuff, for want of simpler terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Steptoe said: I think you have AWD not just selectable 4WD Any labels on it to saw AWD? If so, and the button you don't say where , is a diff lock button? You won't feel anything Get it on loose surface, wind window down to listen and take off Ina hurry. Do you hear rear wheels gripping and just front wheels tearing away on loose surface? There is a difference. If you have AWD and diff lock, diff lock is for centre diff inside rear of gearbox, so it is also manual not automatic? The centre diff lock ties the front wheels diff and the rear wheel diff together for off road stuff, for want of simpler terms hey yeah its a full time awd with manual transmission and i currently cant move because i need a half shaft and so what you are telling me that the 4 wheels only spins under a high rpm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 oh and the diff lock button is next to the e-brake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 In the console between elbows, yes That is the button you pressing and feel nothing? It activates manifold vacuum switching solenoids you find mounted centrally above firewall that activate and deactivate a six inch diameter diaphragm on left side front up high on gearbox that actuates a cable that looks like clutch cable thick, runs over to right side of gearbox where a lever is close to gearbox mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 no im not feeling anything because my cv half shaft on the rear right passenger side is missing....so i cant move thats why i was curious on the way the systems work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 If your diff lock system is working properly, you should be able to drive with the rear shaft removed, it will effectively be a front wheel drive. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Ok thats is basically exactly what i needed to know .......so to boil it that I am figuring that my diff lock system is not working why, because nothing happens when i press the diff lock button, Should a light turn on if the diff lock is on or off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Dunno about a light, but they system needs vacuum to operate the dog clutch in the centre diff. You may need to slip the clutch carefully at idle to get the dog clutch to engage as it may not be aligned properly to lock. The button doesn’t guarantee instant lock once pressed. It just activated the locking system. I would say there will be a diff lock light that illuminates once the centre diff is engaged. The centre diff lock is there for dirt road driving and those really odd times if you find yourself stuck in a pothole with one wheel that has little to no traction where all the engine power is going to. Subaru dropped this setup in the EJ AWD in favour of the centre diff LSD setup, much more user friendly and less parts to produce, so it was goodbye locking centre diff On the LHS strut tower, behind it actually, you should find some vacuum solenoids that have two lines running to the diaphragm, located just behind and below the starter motor. Make sure these are changing the direction of the vacuum and that the diaphragm is moving the cable. I hope this helps you out. Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 ok thanks very much man very helpful information when i have the time i'll go take a look and do some troubleshooting and then i'll let you guys know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptoe Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 If it is AWD and you drive it with an axle missing ...I would not!! What damage will happen to centre diff? These AWD must not be towed on just two wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 9 hours ago, Steptoe said: If it is AWD and you drive it with an axle missing ...I would not!! What damage will happen to centre diff? These AWD must not be towed on just two wheels 1. Yes your diff lock isn’t working 2. It should drive and the orange light in the dash should turn on 3. Crawl under the car and manually pull the cable to lock it. It’s on the passengers side of the trans. Unbolt the cable bracket so the cable will move by hand. Then move it. If that doesn’t work - move it back to the other position just in case it needs worked back and forth It may be working fine. On XT6s, sometimes the system doesn’t engage while sitting still. The car needs to move a little to engage. yours may not engage simply because it’s not moving. So I wouldn’t try to diagnose it until you get a new axle. Check the fuse, switch, then vacuum hoses, and cable to see if it’s seized. The switch is in a good place to get things spilled on it. Driving without a rear axle won’t matter at all in this case. Absolutely zero damage will occur to the center diff. It is going to spin the rear driveshaft the same way no matter what - there will be zero change or difference, the trans can not even “know” the axle is missing. The center differential is locked and does the same thing wether there is a rear axle in place or not. The rear diff will be loaded probably exclusively to one side but that’s not going to matter either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 You can use any EA82 rear axle. Should be readily available new or used. EA82s were available 1985-1994 in Loyale, GL, RX, XT models and others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idosubaru Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1988 and earlier GL hatch are EA81 and I don’t think will work. But GL wagons will work. Look for 1990 loyale rear axles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 11 hours ago, Steptoe said: If it is AWD and you drive it with an axle missing ...I would not!! What damage will happen to centre diff? These AWD must not be towed on just two wheels Agreed about your towing comment. But if the centre diff is locked, there will not be any damage to the centre diff. I’ve done it for 70km due to necessity before. Ran the same, no noises etc. I fixed the issue once back at civilisation, unlocked the centre diff and continued as usual. Cheers Bennie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbchux Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Yep, 2 vacuum solenoids by the LH strut tower in the engine bay. They're very simple solenoids that block vacuum normally, and open to allow vacuum past when power is put to them. I would start there, with a multimeter you can identify if power is making it there (I've seen switches and wiring fail). Then, make a visual inspection of the vacuum lines from those solenoids to the engine, and also from them down to the actuator on the side of the transmission. You can even pull these off and feel for vacuum with the engine running. Yes, there should be an indicator light on the dash for the diff lock. This is an entirely separate circuit with a switch on the transmission, and somewhat prone to failure, so don't take that as gospel. And yea, if your front diff and axles are intact, it would be fine to drive with the diff locked with a missing axle. Don't run it in gear with it unlocked, as your center and rear spider gears will be spinning like crazy (which they are not designed to do). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 Oh man guys just seeing all your replies, everything you guys mentioned is very helpful and much appreciation to you all. Definitely learnt something today, guess i gotta get to work then, will be updating you guys, and lookout out for more questions as we go along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karmasrenegade97 Posted August 8, 2020 Author Share Posted August 8, 2020 Hey guys, Can someone tell me if any parts off an 1984 subaru leone turbo wagon can work on an 89' xt6? Specifically if the half rear shafts could work?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_freddo Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 If it’s the EA81 turbo then no. You need the 4wd Leone from ‘85 onwards. 4wd/AWD coupes will also work basically anything 4wd L series/Leone from ‘85-94 Cheers Bennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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