4RnrRick Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 After reading Phantom Grips website: http://www.phantomgrip.com It appears that its only offered for the Hitachi R160 diffs (rear diff) for $300 but I heard that Mudrat79 can install these in the front diffs. Is this the same part number but just retro fitted to fit the front carrier? Does anyone have a good picture of both carriers side by side? Are they basically the same or WAY different Also is this the only aftermarket locker/LSD that is available for a Soobie? (not including factory LSD) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike W Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 I haven't talked to Mudrat but a couple years ago I talked to Phantom Grip about front diffs and they said "send us your stock open diff and we'll convert it to a Phantom Grip and send it back to you." As for Subaru front LSD's, as far as I know, none have ever been available for our old EA style dual range trannys. New style trannys (like WRXs etc) sure they have LSDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 There is no front carrier I'd call up John (mudrat79) and ask him about it. He's a great guy and if he's not too busy at the moment I'm sure he'd tell you all about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushbasher Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 yes there is a front carrier, it houses the spider gears and the ring gear bolts to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 yes there is a front carrier, it houses the spider gears and the ring gear bolts to it. learn something new all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RnrRick Posted October 20, 2004 Author Share Posted October 20, 2004 So does anyone here run a Phantom Grip..... How does it compare to a OEM LSD?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganM Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 Well I just tried calling mudrat79 but his cell # came up dissconnected? Is everything okay with John or whats up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RnrRick Posted October 20, 2004 Author Share Posted October 20, 2004 When I talked to John last he said he could have a tranny gone thru and a phantom grip installed for around $600 ish.... Just found some interesting information about Diffs here: http://kmhafer.datsun510.com/Subaru.htm A very interesting read for anyone that is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooinater Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 if john says it can be done i'm sure it can. tcase mod is another option for the lsd in the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJM Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I need LSD front and CENTER....i will leave the stock RX LSD rear alone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudrat79 Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I am ok, and Still around...... Verizon and I are having Issues right now, So I apologize For not getting your calls...... Here is What I found Out from Phantom..... They have a Front LSD to fit all 5 speed AWD Subaru Trannies..... Well, I have investigated the Old school Hi-Lo Tranny, and Detirmined that the diff carrier is the same, so The Phantom Grip will go into a 5 Speed Hi-Lo with no issues....... I haven't had the time to tear down a 4 Speed Hi-Lo yet, but will put money on the fact that it is Most likely the same as well...... And I can Re-Build a 5 speed Hi-Lo with Phantom LSD for $650.00 E-mail me if you want One.... Later, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I am ok, and Still around...... Verizon and I are having Issues right now, So I apologize For not getting your calls...... Here is What I found Out from Phantom..... They have a Front LSD to fit all 5 speed AWD Subaru Trannies..... Well, I have investigated the Old school Hi-Lo Tranny, and Detirmined that the diff carrier is the same, so The Phantom Grip will go into a 5 Speed Hi-Lo with no issues....... I haven't had the time to tear down a 4 Speed Hi-Lo yet, but will put money on the fact that it is Most likely the same as well...... And I can Re-Build a 5 speed Hi-Lo with Phantom LSD for $650.00 E-mail me if you want One.... Later, John Hey John, How about sending me the title for the brat I paid for over 4 months ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Was it desighned just for that tranny or did it cross over from another application? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudrat79 Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 SandMan....... From Talking with them, It sounds like it was designed for the 5 speed AWD tranny , and the Hi-Lo happens to be the same design in the carrier....Lucky for us.... Later, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandman Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 Thanks! At least there is an option. Just out of most people's budgets. :-\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWet Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 As a person that started out in Datsuns (and still have my first love), I also look at stuff for my 510. One of the things I found a couple of years ago was a site that has a page on putting Subaru LSDs under Datsuns. http://dimequarterly.tierranet.com/ (It uses frames, so you have to navigate to the Technical Dept., Drivetrain section.) On this page they also discuss other options, and one of the options is the Phantom Grip. This site, however, did not have anything complimentary to say about the Phantom Grip. In fact, they warned against it as being ultimately destructive to the differential. Now, I do not know diddly about the Phantom Grip yet, but it might be nice to hear what somebody who does know says about the description and criticizms. This page might also give some ideas for other sources of LSD. And, no, my 510 does not have a soob LSD under it, but not for any moral reason, just hadn't known before this article, and haven't looked since. It does have an r180... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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