October 19, 200718 yr So we have kid #3 on the way and the Subie just refuses to die. That's a good thing because we certainly can't afford a new car right now. I'm not sure we can fit three car seats in the back of our '86 wagon, but I do know that we need shoulder harnesses to properly use the booster seats. Has anyone on here done that mod? Is it something the dealer will do for cheap? (yeah right) Thanks.
October 19, 200718 yr Find a loyale wagon in the junkyard and grab everything off of it. I'm not sure if the older body's will have the bolt holes for the top mount, but you might get lucky. Loyales are gauranteed to have them. You'll need the rear inside trim panels as well.
October 19, 200718 yr Loyale (my 92) has 'em. Might retrofit?? Shouldn't be too hard - just the upper anchor point.
October 19, 200718 yr I have wondered the same thing. My 87 doesn't have them, but my 88 did. Only thing to do is look to see of the mounts are there.
October 19, 200718 yr Should be - they are on the EA81's as they were required in Austrailia I beleive. GD
October 19, 200718 yr I tore into a car without shoulder belts in the junkyard once researching this for my 88 GL. The holes are there, however, the nut on the backside is not. Soooo.... it will work if you feel safe mounting the bolt in just the unibody metal, unless we can find an easy and safe way to get a nut to thread the bolt into. (All that is for the upper mount for the shoulder harness). -Dave
October 19, 200718 yr That's what I was wondering - if the nut is there. If not, need to find a giant-size drywall-type anchor (sheetrock, plasterboard, gyproc, whatever you call it in your neighborhood) They gotta be out there somewhere. Large nutsert? :confused:
October 19, 200718 yr what about using a carriage bolt or stove bolt, or whatever you want to call it, as a stud of sorts? any chance? I've never investigated this, so this is just a SWAG..
October 19, 200718 yr Should be - they are on the EA81's as they were required in Austrailia I beleive. GD Yep... Good old Australian Design Rules (ADRs) They have prevented a lot of cool cars from ever being sold in Aus!:-\
October 19, 200718 yr Haven't seen the area of where the nut would be, so take this as just an idea. I have used a length of 1/4" x 1" flat stock, one end drilled and tapped to proper thread, to use where a weld-nut should've been, (or where one broke loose), in different auto bodies to (re)attach items. Steel would need to be long enough to reach bolt hole from nearest opening in body metal. Maybe it would work in the case.
October 19, 200718 yr Haven't seen the area of where the nut would be, so take this as just an idea. I have used a length of 1/4" x 1" flat stock, one end drilled and tapped to proper thread, to use where a weld-nut should've been, (or where one broke loose), in different auto bodies to (re)attach items. Steel would need to be long enough to reach bolt hole from nearest opening in body metal. Maybe it would work in the case. Tom, you're a genius. I think I remember seeing someone do that a long time ago, but its not a trick I've been exposed to yet in my adult life. Thanks for reminding me about this.
October 19, 200718 yr The hole is on the C pillar, right where the shoulder belt pivot would mount to the car. Only problem is, I don't think there are any openings nearby to get behind it from. However, it has been a while since I looked at it. I do like that idea though! -Dave
October 19, 200718 yr Does anyone have a picture of what this looks like? I have an '89 and I think its missing pieces or something.
October 20, 200718 yr There are two different types of rear shoulder belts, aren't there? The ones that mount to the pillar and the ones that just come over the top of the seat. Andy
October 21, 200718 yr Would it be too far-fetched to think that maybe you could take the whole rear seatbelt assembly(including the latch) from a Legacy, Impreza, etc and transplant the whole thing into a Loyale, GL-10, GL, or DL wagon? -Patrick
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