how do you get the rear rotiors off, is there a bolt that holds them,please tell me everything you know(its a 97 legacy)

i am assuming you have the caliper and the caliper bracket off?....anyways if both of those are off make sure the parking brake isnt engaged than (assuming your replacing the rotors) just wail on them with a hammer and they should come off........sometimes there is a little screw around the lugnuts but my legacy doesnt have one.......

should the trainsmsion be in netraul, yes this is a a/t , yes the hole calipters is off

no you can keep it in park.......but just make sure the emergency brake is off or you will never get the rear rotor off.......do you see any little screws around the wheel stud area?.....if not go ahead and hammer away.....they get pretty rusted on there sometimes and there pretty hard to get off......

how do you put the pads back in???

ok im assuming you got the rotor off......now you can put the caliper bracket back on.......than you have to depress the piston back into the caliper.....this is done by placing one of your old pads in the same position in the caliper it was when you took it off and taking a large C clamp and placing it around the back of the caliper and the pad and start to twist away.....there might be some resistance just keep twisting and once the piston is all the way in you can remove the c clamp and the old pad....grease the back of your new pads and put them in the caliper and plop the caliper on the new rotor....(when you depress the piston make sure you dont damage the piston boot and also make sure the piston is flush with the caliper before you remove the c clamp or else you will be fighting to get the pads around the rotor).....i dont like using the c clamp method so i bought this handy tool from pepboys the other day.......

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/rodi_1997_47968490

did all the above , bleed it, drove it down the road, now that side seems real hot , even smoking alittle , what did i do wrong or did not do ?, new pads / rotors, cleaned everything with brake parts cleaner

The calpiers may be frozen. Did you lubricate the sliders?

 

nipper

yes i did,

It is time to go to the store and get the haynes manual. there arent many things that can go wrong on a brake job to have problems.

 

nipper

it seems to rubbing , is this normal since there are new pads / rotors,

Not to the point of smoking.

 

nipper

drove it again, parked it , took tire off ,it is so hot that it would burn my hand if i put my hand on it, still waiting for it to cool off,

That can be a seized caliper, the caliper shold easily slide on the pins when the pads are out.

 

 

nipper

ok, before i did the job , it was fine, but the rotor was very bad, , called around and found a rebuilt one, 25 miles away, thanks again

One last thing to check, the pads themselves should slide easily on the metal clips that trap the pads. In other words, the ears on the brake pads, where they are captured by the clips, should slide easily, if not you may need to file the "ears" down slightly. This happened last time I did front brakes on my 97. This problem is covered in the following endwrench article:

 

http://endwrench.com/images/pdfs/PadsInsideEW05.pdf

after new caliper , the brakes still heat up ,way to much ,the pads went on fine, what else can i check

Parking brake shoes.

 

nipper

nothing coming to me as to what this could be. was it ever smoking before hand or is this a new habit?

 

if it wasn't doing this before then it's related to something you did.

 

if it was doing this before then maybe it's something unrelated to what you did.

no it was not,the rear parking brake shoes look ok , but fairly worn down, i guess the next thing is to replace them , [shoes]

if it wasn't doing it before and is now, then something that happened while you were in there is causing this. it won't be something that you "didn't touch" so to speak. so i'd carefully examine everything you worked on.

might be preaching to the choir here - new rotors?

 

did you back off the parking brake star wheel and then adjust it just like drum brakes?

 

Any chance you mixed up the star wheel and put it in backwards?

 

Or swapped left and right (if you did both sides at once)

 

It's why the digital camera comes in so handy on vehicles I work on the first time or "infrequently" - reference pix to show what it looked like when it worked before I got involved.

I was PMing with Jim on this last night. He only did one side, would that make a difference as far a depth of the rotor and pads are concerned?????

i did nothing to the emergency brake adjustment, ? where is the adjustment, yes it is always good to do both sides, but was running out of time, this would explain the rubbing noise, and it being hot,

OK lets back up.

 

What you need to do is look at the wheel you have not touched. Make sure everything looks the same.

 

Have you gotten yourself a haynes manual yet?

 

nipper