November 14, 200817 yr Well this afternoon I start the swap process. I'm disconnecting and hopefully pulling the 5SPD S/R out of the Loyale by tonight. Then tomorrow put in the 5SPD D/R into it and road test. I will post pics as things roll along. here's the new transmission waiting to go in the Loyale. I put in new seals, new shift bushings, clutch bearing, dust boot, and tranny mounts. Can't wait to have it in!!
November 14, 200817 yr Hi, This very swap is in my near future. What year DR tranny are you using? I may use a '86 or an '89. Doug
November 15, 200817 yr Author Hi, This very swap is in my near future. What year DR tranny are you using? I may use a '86 or an '89. Doug I pulled mine out of a '88 GL from the wrecking yard. Its in great shape and the donor car has 80,000 less miles on it than my Loyale.
November 15, 200817 yr Author AND IT BEGINS! up on stands and front tires off. pulled the shifter and console out and moved the carpet out of the way. Next I'm disconnecting as much as I can on top of the tranny from under the hood. Then move the exhaust and drive line out of the way. More pics on the way! Edited November 15, 200817 yr by cmiller
November 15, 200817 yr Author Pulled off the skid plate and dropped the exhaust off of the block... Rear hanger bushings came off easy... But this one is stubborn, it won't budge...
November 15, 200817 yr big screwdriver through same hole as hanger,place flathead of screwdriver behind hanger end and pry off...........:Dcheers,brian Edited November 15, 200817 yr by monstaru
November 15, 200817 yr Author Pile of parts, drive shaft, skid plate, exhaust, etc... Everything disconnected from the transmission, driveline, front axels, etc... Now ready to drop the transmission, but I think its time to call it a night. Quick question, what are people doing with the two extra vacuum lines from the push button 4WD after they are disconnected? Don't really need them with the new transmission.
November 15, 200817 yr Author Well, back at it again. Should go quicker today with my buddy helping out. Thanks for the tip Brian, it took some work to pop it off the hook. Edited November 15, 200817 yr by cmiller
November 16, 200817 yr Author Old transmission out... ready for the dual range putting in the dual range shift linkage and interior all buttoned up. Everything went in easy and without a hitch. I just plugged up the vacuum lines from the old tranny, also I kept the Loyale shifter with the button. I dunno what to hook up to the switch. Any ideas? passenger ejector seat? air horn?... Did the road test and man what a difference in 4 low! Can't wait for some snow!
November 17, 200817 yr nice work:drunk: Hows this Sunday for wheelin ... Team CF and I are always out and about...let's go wheelin' ! Don't forget the HP X-mas tree run..! I need to do the swap myself as my 4spd has a bad 3rd gear syncro and no hi range.. For the switch I would make it the turbo boost(Blower) switch ya know like the madmax intercepter...lol Edited November 17, 200817 yr by scoobyclimbs
November 17, 200817 yr Author nice work:drunk: Hows this Sunday for wheelin ... Team CF and I are always out and about...let's go wheelin' ! Don't forget the HP X-mas tree run..! I need to do the swap myself as my 4spd has a bad 3rd gear syncro and no hi range.. For the switch I would make it the turbo boost(Blower) switch ya know like the madmax intercepter...lol Nice! I have to work this weekend. But I really want to see your new hatch. The tranny swap was much needed. Next I have to figure out a front bumper.
November 20, 200817 yr So I have an '85 with the POS 3 speed auto so I need a swap of this kind. I am curious if anyone knows about the peddle assembly and if any cutting of the firewall would be needed to fit a clutch peddle? Thanks for any input available and congrats on the upgrade..
November 20, 200817 yr So I have an '85 with the POS 3 speed auto so I need a swap of this kind. I am curious if anyone knows about the peddle assembly and if any cutting of the firewall would be needed to fit a clutch peddle? Thanks for any input available and congrats on the upgrade.. No cutting necessary. Just make sure you get all the parts needed for the swap. Peddle assembly, clutch cable. Complete running gear. Make sure the rear diff ratio you get matches the tranny (3.9 for a 5spd D/R non turbo)
November 20, 200817 yr No cutting necessary.Just make sure you get all the parts needed for the swap. Peddle assembly, clutch cable. Complete running gear. Make sure the rear diff ratio you get matches the tranny (3.9 for a 5spd D/R non turbo) I did this swap as well and changed the whole dash board and harness as well and I also stole the manual seat belts out of the donor car as well!
March 17, 200917 yr will an 83 - 87 dual range trans bolt right into a 91 loyale 5 spd?? i have dreams... thanks, john
March 17, 200917 yr will an 83 - 87 dual range trans bolt right into a 91 loyale 5 spd?? i have dreams... thanks, john It would with some mod, but are you talking about the 4 spd d/r? If so it's not worth it, the 5 spd is much stronger
March 18, 200917 yr It would with some mod, but are you talking about the 4 spd d/r? If so it's not worth it, the 5 spd is much stronger yes the 4 spd d/r, 83 - 87, i was just looking for the low range, off road. how different are they? the gear ratios appear to be close. is the loyale too heavy? mostly i was wondering about the bell housing bolts. what kind of mods besides the hi low lever, trans mount, shifter? is it possible/ practical to swap the 'dual range' section on to the loyale 5 speed?? Edited March 18, 200917 yr by johnceggleston
March 18, 200917 yr You would probably need the drive shaft that went with the 4spd. The tranny itself is a lot longer than the 5 spd. And the lo range isn't as low as the 5 spd
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