baggyshorts Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 i have a '86 subaru GL 5 spd. wagon ea82, (non turbo). my question... will an ea 81 engine from an '84 fit my car? and will it fit my 5 spd. tranny? (dont know off hand what kind of subaru the 84 is, alls i know is that it has an ea81) thanks in advance guys, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dude Abides Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Short answer, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You will have to grind on the bell-housing to allow installation of the EA82 flywheel, but otherwise it will mate to the transmission and cross-member. There will be changes required in the wireing due to the distributor being located in the front rather than the drivers-side rear. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3eyedwagon Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You will also need to figure something out for the power steering if you have it currently, and want to keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phizinza Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You don't need to grind the bellhousing if your EA81 has a 225mm clutch. Just fit the friction disc from the EA82 in the EA81 pressure plate and flywheel then space the starter motor out 6mm. Its what I done with my 5sp swap in my EA81 Sedan. The wiring is slightly different, especially the coil and disty wiring. But not hard to rewire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFox Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 otherwise, you can swap the ea82 flywheel and clutch onto the ea81. the holes are larger, but the bolts will fit and torque. be aware the timing marks are different between the ea81 and ea82 flywheels, so be sure to transfer the marks if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralDisorder Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You don't need to grind the bellhousing if your EA81 has a 225mm clutch. Just fit the friction disc from the EA82 in the EA81 pressure plate and flywheel then space the starter motor out 6mm. Its what I done with my 5sp swap in my EA81 Sedan. Not all clutch discs are the same - some will not fit inside the cavity of the EA81 flywheel due to the shape of the dampener spring assembly. We also know that he has an EA82 flywheel so that's the surest method to get it installed. GD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 You will also need to figure something out for the power steering if you have it currently, and want to keep it. The Same Applies for the Air Conditioneer... Why do you Want to Swap an EA82 with an EA81? ... if I Take out my EA82 Engine, I will Swap there an EJ Engine for Sure... Kind Regards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggyshorts Posted February 2, 2009 Author Share Posted February 2, 2009 the reason i'm thinking of switching from an EA82 to a EA81 is because the timing belt broke while driving on the hiway. took her to the mechanic, he says that aside from the belt being broke, the tensioner broke as well. he called several parts stores, and they sell a "kit" which comes with a belt, tensioner, and pulley, and a few more minor pcs. all for the grand total of $270.00! (plus they have to order the kit) so after all is said and done, he 's gonna charge me approx. $600.00 parts and labor! and that doesnt include the fact that he still has to see if any valves are bent or any further damage. at least, he told me before he actually did anything to it. he even told me to think about it, because of how much money i wanted to put into it. anyway, theres this guy who has an '84 subaru selling for parts. he wants $250.00 for the engine (hence EA81) so question is....do i do it?:-\ let me know what u guys think. by the way thanks for all your responses. i will definately take all of that info into consideration if i decide to do the swap. thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheinen74 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Ask Subiemech to post a picture of his. I like what he has done to keep the power steering. so it can be taken back to original fairly easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 there wont beany bent valves ea82 is a free wheel motor you are safe there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyale 2.7 Turbo Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 ...he still has to see if any valves are bent or any further damage. ... EA82`s are Non-interference Engines! ... Thanks God!!! ... so Valves Must be O.K.! Maybe you can Obtain a Cheaper Timin` Belts Kit at e-bay or Something Alike, and then I Suggest you to do the Timin` Belts` Job by Yourself, it is not Too Hard to Do, here You`ll find Great Write ups with Pictures of the Procedure (Look at the USRM) and you can Save some Money! Kind Regards & Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubaruJunkie Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I say you take the $250 you were going to spend on a EA81, and buy a timing belt kit... then do the work yourself. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-1994-Subaru-1-8-GL-DL-Loyale-Timing-Belt-Kit-EA82_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem220352434323QQitemZ220352434323QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories There is the kit you need. Its alot less than $250 and shouldn't take more than 5 days to get to you. There is plenty of documentation here on the board to walk you through it. I used that same kit on my EA82 turbo, and it worked great. It has everything you need. Also, do not worry about your valves. The engine is a non-interference engine and breaking a timing belt will do absolutly no harm to anything else at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast I Drive Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Your mechanic is ripping you off at that price. the belts cost 45 bucks for the pair, the tensioner can be had for not much as well. Im sure you can find a timing belt kit for way less than 270 bones. As was stated, EA82 motors are non-interference, so there will be no internal damage at all. As far as swapping an EA81 in there, I say do it, I did it, and I love it. About the same power, never have to worry about timing belts goin out at the wrong time, and its pretty simple swap. I used the EA82 clutch/pp/flywheel, I tried a EA81 flywheel but it was 1/4 inch too thick and the pressure plate would not fully engage the clutch. I used the stock ignition coil and everything, just extended the wires to the passenger side of the car to reach the disty. You can also use the EA82 intake manifold and the pipe that comes off the water pump to go to the heater from your car too and then youll only have to change 1 radiator hose to hook up the radiator. For power steering youd need a EA81 power steering pump and bracket, unless you rig up a custom mount for the stock one. I was too lazy, so I bypassed the lines on the steering rack and have been driving it without power steering. Its a workout turning 31" tires, but It doesnt even phase me at all anymore -Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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